Anti-Zionism is anti-semitism

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Obama and Pope Francis finally acknowledge it!


For years I argued logically against this. But criticism of Israel and Israeli policies is NOT anti-zionism. Anti-Zionism is the stance that Israel has no right to exist(which the supreme leader of Iran has directly hinted at recently)and should be abrogated.

Antiziinusm ius not neccessarly anti Jewish but Anti Zionism is the a key tactic used by those that hate Jews.

Israel is a nation based primarily on Zionist designs.

But it's a nation.

Zionism is a political-ethnic concept.

Both have to be considered separately, though they are intricately connected.

I am of the opinion that Israel should evolve, and co-exist with the Palestinians, and vice versa.

What is Zionism an indication of then? What about all the Jews that aren't Zionists? I don't think a majority of Jews live in Israel. To say anti-Zionism is predicative of antisemitism is silly, are there any pro-Zionist antisemites? Of course someone that literally hates Jews would probably not believe in a state founded on the faith, if someone hates the sport of football they would probably hate the Chicago Bears as well but you can't conflate the two since someone that hates the Chicago Bears could still love football.

The idea of a Jewish state is inherently oppressive to anyone who's not Jewish. I lean anti-zionist, but I don't hate Jews, as I am Jewish myself and have Israeli family members. Just like I would object to the idea that the USA should be a Christian state. And Israel is a theocracy, not a "healthy democracy". It is not inclusive of Palestinians, even though they will be the majority population by 2020.

So, orthodox Israeli activist groups including (Hasidic) Rabbis Against Zionism (RAZies) and Jews Against Zionism (JAZies) are anti-semitic?!? Haha. Okay...! Of course, it could just be that they, and others, have religious reasons to oppose Herzl's political/social movement and to support Torahic law. Hmm, on the one hand, we have a 120-year-old movement, but, on the other hand, we have more than 3,000 years of religious law. Is it now a difficult choice to see that some of their differences might tilt toward the law, if only out of respect for what it tells us? The RAZies and JAZies clearly believe that sentiment. Since I don't live in Israel and haven't even visited it, I tend to trust those whose families have lived there (under British Palestine as well as Israel) and know the dynamics.

Zionism to me is the belief in a land of Israel and an obligation for Jews to return to it

the "Jewish homeland" concept was very popular among folk who hated Jews in their homelands for obvious reasons, a lot of strange bedfellows

there were other places proposed for this Jewish homeland, I think Patagonia in Chile and Madagascar were places proposed. I think somewhere on the African continent too like Uganda or something.

The area around the Levant could be said to be birthplace for two major religions: Judaism and Christianity. A case could be made for Islam as well, even though it was founded a bit east of there.

There's a good reason why the area around the Levant, rather than Madagascar or Chile, was chosen as the site for a Jewish homeland. Neither Madagascar nor Chile was the site of the foundation of either religion.

The creation of Israel really wasn't handled that well.

Israel is far from perfect, but Jews who oppose the Jewish state are allowed to be idiotic. But those who curse Israel and argue against its sheer existence are extremely angry about the fact that Jews have power.

@Jacoby: People who hate Jews really don't support a Jewish homeland because they want the Jewish people to be completely defenseless.

My elderly neighbor and friend is the child of Jewish immigrants that came to America and settled in Brooklyn,in her own words,"Zionists are crazy."