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02 Jun 2016, 7:31 pm

I heard some official claim that the BDS movement, which is like any other boycott, is anti-semitic. How many times does a person cry wolf before they're not believed? How could boycotting capitalistic products be on the same anti-semitic sense as Hitler was? How could they be so foolish as to devalue the idea of prejudice? (Which they're now experts in themselves.)



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02 Jun 2016, 7:37 pm

There are degrees of anti-Semitism; from simple apathy toward Semitic misfortune to actively causing Semitic misfortune.

Boycotting Semitic corporations is anti-Semitic only if the boycott is perform because the corporation is owned by Semitic people. It is not anti-Semitic if the boycott is performed because the corporation employs slave labor and pollutes the environment.


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02 Jun 2016, 8:06 pm

Israel is speaking out in for its own self interests and this is always their trump card. It's kind of like how ALL criticism of Obama is because of his nixed race, people play the hand they are dealt.



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03 Jun 2016, 2:02 am

Mootoo wrote:
I heard some official claim that the BDS movement, which is like any other boycott, is anti-Semitic. How many times does a person cry wolf before they're not believed? How could boycotting capitalistic products be on the same anti-Semitic sense as Hitler was? How could they be so foolish as to devalue the idea of prejudice? (Which they're now experts in themselves.)


I have 3 major issues with the BDS movement...

(1) There have been multiple examples of blatant anti-Semitism within the BDS movement, including outright Holocaust denial. These incidences occur with such a frequency that it would naïve to consider them mere coincidences.

(2) Anti-Israel sentiment is predictive of anti-Semitic sentiment, as I have demonstrated here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=319642&p=7076922#p7076922. It would thus be prudent to ask if the BDS movement isn't in fact (to a lesser or greater extent) a type of "dog-whistle" anti-Semitism.

(3) Why Israel? There are many countries in the World that engage in completely abhorrent practices which make the Israel-Palestine conflict look like an insignificant footnote to an insignificant footnote. Where is the boycott of countries which advocate Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) or execute people for homosexuality, religious conversion or simply for speaking their mind?

As such, I can fully understand the charge of anti-Semitism towards the BDS movement. Especially no. 3 - the decision by the BDS movement to arrange boycotts against Israel and only Israel - raises serious concerns about the true motives of the movement.



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04 Jun 2016, 4:38 pm

GGPViper wrote:

(3) Why Israel? There are many countries in the World that engage in completely abhorrent practices which make the Israel-Palestine conflict look like an insignificant footnote to an insignificant footnote. Where is the boycott of countries which advocate Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) or execute people for homosexuality, religious conversion or simply for speaking their mind?

As such, I can fully understand the charge of anti-Semitism towards the BDS movement. Especially no. 3 - the decision by the BDS movement to arrange boycotts against Israel and only Israel - raises serious concerns about the true motives of the movement.


Why Israel? That’s easy. Zionists claim that Israel is part of the West (even though it isn’t), and the people of the West have been told for decades that the West’s greatest sins are racism and imperialism. And what is Israel? A racial nationalist state formed through a combination of European imperialism and Zionist military conquest.

The real question is how anyone can justify supporting a racial nationalist state for Jews when they wouldn’t support racial nationalist states for anyone else.



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04 Jun 2016, 5:17 pm

Israel is a nuclear armed terrorist state that commits genocide and war crimes on a regular basis. they have to be delusional, so they can convince themselves they are truly gods chosen people. :roll:



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04 Jun 2016, 7:15 pm

Here, something to chew on a bit (video-clip further down), and Hitler was apparently against Zionism rather than the Jews (I guess that would explain why I had come across a documented [from hypnotic-regression research] case of a former Nazi-Soldier who did not try to kill a Jewish-woman who was trapped in a tram-car and, according to that case, the Nazi-German felt extremely guilty about being too late when he returned the following week to save her from being trapped before she died in the vehicle)...


Let me add a screen-shot to a comment to this clip for good measure...
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From the information I have looked over... I am under the impression that Zionism is more like a Shadow-Government (affecting much more around the whole entire planet than just a few aspects of Israel)... also, I think nearly everybody upon this planet is delusional to a greater or lesser degree, especially when it comes to the thought-police...


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05 Jun 2016, 3:17 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Israel is speaking out in for its own self interests and this is always their trump card. It's kind of like how ALL criticism of Obama is because of his nixed race, people play the hand they are dealt.


I happen to be related to Obama. I don't criticize him because of his race. I criticize him because he's a narcissistic posterior orifice. You can be any race to be that. :roll:


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