I'm starting to dislike Bernie Sanders.

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I supported him a year ago when he was an unknown. I agreed with him on issues, I liked that he was Independent, I liked that he was against Super PAC's.

I liked that he focused on the issues instead of negative attacks. But once he blew up, it was him that got negative even more than Hillary. Along the way, he's picked up a base of angry supporters who would start a mosh pit at the convention if they could.

Another factor is that issue oriented campaign never developed. He ran on a 6 issue campaign. He wanted to stay in the race longer to talk about the issue, but he's only repeated his points rather than expanding on them.

I don't like the delegate/superdelegate system, but losing the popular vote means there's no contest. Sanders has been hypocritical. He campaigned for a system where majority vote selects the president - not the party establishment. But now Bernie wants to win the nomination without having the popular vote. His supporters, once opposed to superdelegates, are okay with them now that he needs them.

By staying in, he diminishes Clinton's great accomplishment of being the first female to win a nomination of a major party.

The progressives probably have a term for that like "man-diminishing".

I hate when people worship him so much that they're not critical about anything he does or stands for. didn't we learn not to do this after Obama 2008???

Yes, this is a problem. Old people can be rigid and stubborn ; their problem is that they aren't willing to adopt a new vision. Young people, oppositely, can fall for glitz and glamor all too easily. A lot of campaigns, particularly with younger voters, tend to emphasize the overall feeling and mood rather than the issues.

Ron Paul 2008. A lot of young people supported him because he was against the war on drugs, was against Iraq/foreign wars and wasn't one of those "Gay people are sinners" Republicans. A good bit of his supporters were legit Libertarian, but I'd easily say that a 1/3 of his supporters (my 17 year old self included) would have avoided him if they found out he wanted to end Social Security and Medicaid.

Barack Obama 2008. He was super charismatic. He was everything to everyone. He understood policy, but equivocated enough so that he was an image and an idea rather than a flesh and blood candidate. Progressives mistook him for revolutionary. Moderates mistook him for a pragmatic statesman. And some people didn't care about the issues at all. They just liked him as a person.

Bernie Sanders 2016. If I had to guess, 1/3 of his supporters are democratic socialists, 1/3 of his supporters are left-leaning Democrats who are upset with the system and 1/3 of his supporters are people who are angry in general and will support whoever makes the most loud noises.

There is a tangible difference between Bernie and Hillary, why would his supporters support someone like Hillary ever?

Bernie owes it to his movement to its very ends if he truly wants the revolution he claims to want, hopefully he keeps his integrity and never endorses the criminal Hillary Clinton. Remember Bernie was not Democrat when he started this process.

Yeah and how is a mere presidential candidate going to create such a system if they aren't elected...do any presidential candidates who win do it via 'popular vote' alone in our current system? Also when has a candidate running for 'independent' win the election that would put him out of the race before it even began...why else do you think he's been running for the democratic nomination.

He has to play these political games a little bit but thus far he doesn't seemed entirely consumed by it.

Wrong. Sanders has been way too soft on Hillary. The corporate media has been falsely portraying Bernie as a sexist with his Bernie bros. inciting all kinds of crap that they can spin into a story.



The media has also portrayed Bernie's supporters as this angry mob, they lie. Not one of Bernie's supporters has been arrested, while a supporter of Hillary's was arrested for attacking a Sander's supporter.

The Nevada caucus ruckus never happened, at least not the way the media portrayed it. Not one chair was ever thrown. Beyond some anger and shouting there was no rushing the stage, chairs thrown or people hurt. Just a big media spin on the story.

Lying corporate media fear mongering at it's best, or worst depending on your view.

If Sanders doesn't drop out of the Democrat race between the DC primaries and the Democrat convention, he'll be viewed as a distraction to Hillary's campaign. IMO, if Democrats want to unite, they should try and convince Bernie to be Hillary's running mate, whether he likes it or not.

Or he's waiting in the wings for if the Hillary indictment drops...

If the Dems aren't stupid, they'll push the FBI to indict her now before she's formally locked up the nom. If they're idiots, they'll wait into she's formally got the nomination then indict her between that time and election day. Trump wants this because it'd basically sew up his win.

The dems aren't stupid, if she's getting indicted it'le happen before the convention.

I figure Obama would not have endorsed her if an indictment is coming at any time.

Obama not endorsing her would make it obvious a indictment was coming and cause panic within the party. It's standard protocol for POTUS to endorse the parties nominee, him doing any different, even if a indictment was on the way would cause panic. Obama actually doesn't know as much as he'd like to (the FBI deliberately isn't briefing him or the AG) so he's most likely covering his bases in case a indictment does come.

The WH Press Secretary directly referred to it as a "criminal investigation" during the press conference. It's deliberate IMO, when/if she gets indicted Obama withdraws his endorsement pretends to be shocked at her transgressions and sets the stage for the rest of the democratic party to do the same.

He's covering his bases for either outcome.

For an indictment, the FBI will have to make the request to the Justice Department.

Pres. Obama's appointee, Loretta Lynch, runs the Justice department.

So, assuming the FBI makes the request, Pres. Obama will decide whether to indict or not.

Obama has never cared much about the party. He is on a full on combination of lagacy and bragging I beat my enemies tour right now. Did anybody see the one hour infomercial/ love fest called the Tonight show last night?. If you did not know any better when the show was over you would think the Obama administration was better then all of the prevoius administrations combined.

Suppose his popular vote count is close to Hillary's in the end after finishing out the Primary? He might be hoping that even if he loses, his views and followers must be acknowledge by the Party.

I think this is similar to what Ron Paul tried to do by staying in the Primary race so long. He wanted to gain clout based his success in fund raising and be one of the main speakers in the convention.

Some of the fallout from Sanders' campaign might be pressuring the party to make Wasserman Shultz resign. In this way, it shows he is having an affect on the party.

Lynch would have no choice but to indict if that's what the FBI wants.

If she chooses not to, all the FBI has to do is whine to the Senate about the investigation being snubbed and they'll get a special prosecutor. And it'le more or less confirm the party is trying to snub Hillary's past to undecideds. That would hand Trump the election on the spot.

My better half tells me the FBI has said that if Loretta refuses to indite they will deliver their information to the media. I'd like to see that.