Trump, Hillary, SJW/Feminists, I DON'T FREAKING KNOW!

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Good evening everyone, It has been many years since I wrote a topic post on this site.

So recently I have been watching the anti-feminism videos and Social Justice Warrior Cringe videos. Some of the famous anti-feminists include: Blair White, Milo Yiannopoulos, ShoeOnHead, The Amazing Atheist, Bearing, SugarTits, Undoomed, TheNakedApe, etc.

So let me tell you about this SJW ideology. So a social justice warrior is basically a person who just wants social justice. They mostly have gender/women studies and social justice classes. They mostly support feminism and few of their favorite phrases are, "Check your privilege," "Cis Scum," "Teach men not to rape," and so on. Now to be honest, I used to have a social justice warrior mindset through high school and my first college year, but I didn't go out and preach outside about feminism/LGBTQ. Later during the summer of 2016 to about now, I stumbled upon an anti-feminist video by bearing. After watching it, I watched some more anti-feminist video by other users on youtube.

Now this anti-feminism was bought up at the time when feminism entered into its third wave. Some famous third wave feminists include: Anita Sarkeesian, Laci Green, Brianna Wu, Franchesca Ramsey, Clementine Ford, etc. One of their favorite online sites is Tumblr.com

Also when I was watching those anti-feminism videos and SJW cringe fests, I also questioned my political beliefs. So people were saying that they didn't want Donald Trump to become president because they consider him a bigot. But also people didn't want Hillary Clinton to become president, just because of the emails, and they also criticized her as the evil liar. Plus, she is a liberal and she may carry supporters who are "Feminists"(SJWs). Now I really don't know who to believe, I was completely baffled by the Trump Supporters who go against Anti-trump people physically and SJW liberals who push this feminism/LGBTQ propaganda.

If any of you got any question about this confusion, shoot it at me. Thanks!

didn't read i don't care about politics.
anyway **** them trumf, hirraly and feminism

Nice Response.

My question is this... what exactly do SJW/Feminists want to be accomplished? ( besides equality ) A better question would be why do some feminists think they're making their point by belittling men in the process. Again this isn't directed to every feminist, but I'm sure you know the type I'm referring to. These types of people have this almost frightening amount of disdain for anyone who is white, male, well off, or identifies as straight. Which describes me fairly well. So I'm sure SJW's just loooooooooove me hence why I don't use Tumblr, and their hive-like mentality to anyone who shares an opinion different than the collective. Which in hindsight could be applied to almost any other site on the internet. When you belittle someone else, you do more harm to your cause/argument than good.

I suppose they just want political correctness, and anyone who opposes political correctness is depreciated and called names like "Rape Apologist" or something like that. I understand that people want political correctness but why are they doing actions that are dogmatic and harmful to some people?

I would say human nature, but at this point I don't know anymore.

You shouldn't watch those alt-right youtube atheist dickheads, they are the scum of the earth. Feminism and LGBT rights are legitimate social justice movements.

Are you sure? Cause I don't know who to believe in anymore.

It's not like one side is devoid of propaganda, they are both trying to persuade.

My personal opinion: Both Trump and Hillary are disasters.

I wish we had somebody like Hubert Humphrey running for President.

I don't mind Feminism; I don't care for some "social justice warriors," though.

My feelings aren't so extreme, though, that I would preclude myself from talking to somebody who is opposed to me politically.

Take heed, for they are henceforth declared unpersons!

You should watch everything and come to your own conclusions. Don't make an exclusionary steel-trap of your mind, like AspE advocates.

In the words of Homer Simpson: "He did it because he's stupid. That's why everybody does everything."

SJWs and anti-SJWs are just two sides of the same dumb coin.

I'd recommend not throwing your lot in with slobbering extremists of any stripe.

I agree a dead person is better then those two.

Libralism has gone from "The Happy Warrior" to "Social Justice Warriors" Ahh progress

Hubert Humphrey accomplished more for Social Justice in a day then most of these SJW's will in a lifetime.

I know who all those anti-feminists are to some extent, but my favourite three, who I consider well above the ones you listed are Sargon of Akkad, Harmful Opinions and TL;DR. Though calling any of those three anti-feminists I don't think does them justice. They're about much more than that. I'd advise checking them out. Of the ones you listed, Shoe is probably my favourite and Undoomed my least favourite.

For me it boils down to being about power. Advancing the in-group at the expense of the outgroup. They want to destroy the system root and branch and replace it with one that puts them on the top with everyone else underneath. PC is a tool to that end. It cripples you if you're in the outgroup and adhere to it. It thus gives the in-group power.

Since when has feminism become extremist? What's wrong with people these days, just relabeling Nazism, somehow considering it 'natural' (?) - and everything else is political correctness? (It used to be called 'civility'.) Well, guess what, unmitigated bigots, 50% of the population has rights, and I don't say that to be some RPG-like 'warrior' type... people have rights, what could also be called universal human rights, and while their enforcement isn't universal and much philosophy can be debated, this 'movement', much of which came from chauvinistic fascists on random online boards (no, it's not at all hypocritical to call your opponents online warriors but then use the Internet almost exclusively to spread your own filth)...

This is also beyond American elections... it somehow seems like Clinton is seen as representative of all women and that is obviously fallacious. And horribly local: one either addresses the universal concept of equality etc. or American politics, though not mutually exclusive.

Ultimately, no, feminism shouldn't blind - I despise how many thought "oh, the second female UK PM" without any background or history, when one could easily see her whole voting record online, and despite the fact she was only elected by MPs - but female rights generally can't possibly be debatable... unless, of course, in their infinite hypocrisy (which isn't unusual these days) they adopt Muslim attitudes towards gender - these are supposed to be the same rednecks who hate everyone... religiously, even Christians who happen to not match their stupid palette.

Really though, politics should be decided based on policies, not personal features... doesn't help that the Republican nominee is useless on both fronts... only elect him if you think the Third Reich is a great model of history.

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