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19 Jul 2016, 7:37 pm

Melania Knavs, was born in 1970 in Yugoslavia, now know as Slovenia. Knavs studied design and architecture at the University of Ljubljana in Slovenia. She then worked as a model for fashion houses in Milan and Paris before relocating to New York City in 1996.

After moving to New York City , Knavs supposedly met Donald Trump at a Fashion Week party in New York City in September 1998. Their relationship gained attention after a 1999 interview on The Howard Stern Show, and additional publicity after the 2004 launch of Trump's successful business-oriented reality television show, The Apprentice. Donald Trump described their long courtship in 2005: "We literally have never had an argument, forget about the word 'fight' . We just are very compatible. We get along."
After becoming engaged in 2004, Donald Trump and Melania Knavs were married on January 22, 2005, at The Episcopal Church of Bethesda-by-the-Sea in Palm Beach, Florida, followed by a reception in the 17,000-sq.-ft ballroom at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate.

Trump has always stated he met his wife Melania at a fashion week party in 1998. But Anna Novak a matchmaker who operated an office in Slovenia for several "Mail Order Bride" companies, including a company called A Foreign Affair, says she received a call sometime around 1995 from the head office to help arrange a call between a female member Melanija, and A VIP client she only knew as Donald. Shortly after the call, Melania asked to be removed as a member and to have her profile completely removed from the websites.

If this was truly "The Donald" and the "Melania" then why the secrecy? Trump was married at the time, even when they met each at the Fashion Week party. It is not a secret that Trump has had a long history of infidelity, When married to his first wife, Czech model Ivana Zelní Ková, he had an affair with actress Marla Maples, In 1992 Ivana's and Donald's divorce was finalized, shortly thereafter Donald sued Ivana for $25 million, alleging she was not honoring a gag clause in their divorce agreement by disclosing facts about him. Maples and Donald were married the following year after his first divorce on December 20, 1993. The couple's divorce finalized in June 1999, nearly one year after the Fashion Week party where supposedly Donald met Melania for the first time.



A spoke's person for A Foreign Affair' in Phoenix AZ, says. "We have a strict confidentiality policy so we can not make any comments about any member or client." They did admit they do help many rich and or famous clients find love overseas.

Article by: Lawrence Mcdonald



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20 Jul 2016, 12:30 am

Misogyny! Xenophobia! Hypocrites!

Did you sign up to make this one post?



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20 Jul 2016, 3:01 pm



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20 Jul 2016, 8:45 pm

I couldn't find any convincing evidence at all which would support the title question for this thread or the woman cited as the source. (And hardly anyone could be less Trump-partisan than me, I'd be the polar opposite to Jacoby about the DT).

If there really is hard evidence from this woman as your article alleges, then show it to us and provide your sources.
If this claim was true, I would suspect that some unscrupulous person would have already sold it to the media for a very very large sum. I am not saying that it could not possibly be true, I am saying that you fail to provide any convincing primary evidence as the OP.

Speculation is not against the rules of PPR, however. It is a frequent happening on this forum.



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20 Jul 2016, 9:55 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Misogyny! Xenophobia! Hypocrites!

Did you sign up to make this one post?


You do know that all this is just poking fun at Trump, not Meania, don't you?


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20 Jul 2016, 11:18 pm

I'm not about to defend Melania, but I think insulting a man's wife because you don't like him is sort of cowardly.

Is this what American Democrats have to stoop to? A party of bullies that picks on an immigrant woman for her poor writing skills? Is this what we've become?



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20 Jul 2016, 11:54 pm

I hope not. It would be grossly insulting (and a rule breach) to assert that all Democrats are bullies (or Republicans).
Please don't go there.



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21 Jul 2016, 12:32 am

B19 wrote:
I hope not. It would be grossly insulting (and a rule breach) to assert that all Democrats are bullies (or Republicans).
Please don't go there.


But calling Melania Trump a "mail-order bride" (invoking negative stereotypes about Eastern European women) isn't?



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21 Jul 2016, 12:43 am

The OP isn't claiming (unless I missed it) that all Eastern European women are mail order brides. If he is, then that is a gross generalisation which is manifestly untrue and unfair. I thought he was suggesting that Melania Trump might have been listed with such an agency at one time, and that matches his thread title.

Personally, I think pigs might fly before compelling evidence for that arrives.



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21 Jul 2016, 1:02 am

How is speculation about this misogyny. That would imply that I have something against mail-order brides which I don't.

If anything, if it were true, it would reflect poorly on Trump, not Melania. We have no evidence of this one way or the other. I can tell you one thing. If Trump wanted this hidden, he would try to keep it hidden. That is why no one trusts him. He tries to bury inconvenient facts like many politicians.



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21 Jul 2016, 1:33 am

Barchan wrote:
I'm not about to defend Melania, but I think insulting a man's wife because you don't like him is sort of cowardly.

Is this what American Democrats have to stoop to? A party of bullies that picks on an immigrant woman for her poor writing skills? Is this what we've become?


I seem to recall how the Republicans took great glee in attacking both Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton. Is that cowardly?


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21 Jul 2016, 1:36 am

If you think calling Obama a Muslim is offensive then it should not be very hard to figure out why using the stereotype of Eastern European women as mail order brides is offensive. I would say this characterization is a much crueler and nasty one as Melania is not a politician but rather a wife and mother, think about what you are essentially saying about this woman. She's a former model and speaks with an accent so apparently that makes her stupid and bimbo nevermind the fact that English is her FIFTH language! They've actually used pictures from her career in modeling to shame her and try to sway votes with this, it really is disgusting. What bothers me more than anything is the hypocrisy from people that scream racism and sexism at all their political enemies, what leg do these people even have to stand on if they cannot control their own mouths? Do as I say not as I do?

I never thought making fun of Michelle Obama was appropriate, what point is there to it? She is not a politician, she's a wife and a mother just like Melania. It's an insular and divisive type of humor that does not win the hearts and minds, you are only laughing among yourselves. The one positive thing I can say about these last 8 years with Obama is that at least he seems to be good family man and I think the example him and Michelle have given the nation and especially the black community in this regard is such a valuable one given where we are as a culture.



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21 Jul 2016, 1:43 am

Melania Trump is not an ordinary "wife and mother" though; she is a public figure married to a very public figure, and scrutiny of background issues just comes with the territory when you are someone who wants to be "First Lady" or any kind of political public figure, especially as the partner of a would-be President of the USA.

That's political life, end of.



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21 Jul 2016, 1:49 am

Jacoby wrote:
If you think calling Obama a Muslim is offensive then it should not be very hard to figure out why using the stereotype of Eastern European women as mail order brides is offensive. I would say this characterization is a much crueler and nasty one as Melania is not a politician but rather a wife and mother, think about what you are essentially saying about this woman. She's a former model and speaks with an accent so apparently that makes her stupid and bimbo nevermind the fact that English is her FIFTH language! They've actually used pictures from her career in modeling to shame her and try to sway votes with this, it really is disgusting. What bothers me more than anything is the hypocrisy from people that scream racism and sexism at all their political enemies, what leg do these people even have to stand on if they cannot control their own mouths? Do as I say not as I do?


There's a huge difference, as the paranoiac right calls Obama a Muslim so they can accuse him of being a fifth columnist, which is in no way similar to accusing a woman of being a mail order bride.


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21 Jul 2016, 1:57 am

If you understand one then you should understand the other, don't be obtuse now because you've been caught with your hand in cookie jar!



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21 Jul 2016, 2:01 am

Jacoby wrote:
If you understand one then you should understand the other, don't be obtuse now because you've been caught with your hand in cookie jar!


Sir, I shamelessly have my hand in the cookie jar, as I love cookies, especially chocolate chip! :lol:


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