Trump "gives" to charity with other peoples money

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10 Sep 2016, 11:37 pm

How Donald Trump retooled his charity to spend other people’s money

And while unprecedented it is legal


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17 Sep 2016, 4:13 am

I was shocked to read this in our national newspaper here. Planning that amounts to a cynical intention to deceive while hypocritically making oneself appear falsely generous. It should win a prize for hypocrisy.



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17 Sep 2016, 8:35 am

It is nonsense, Trump raised money for charity instead of spending it all himself! Oh the humanity!

Poor deflection from the Clinton's foundation troubles where there is obviously pay-for-play and influence peddling

have you looked at the latest wikileaks from the DNC with the financial data? How much do you think an ambassadorship costs?

What the Clinton Foundation did is very illegal by the way



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17 Sep 2016, 8:56 am

Obama, the Clintons, and the DNC essentially did what Rod Blagojevich got sent to prison for which was auctioning off public offices

http://observer.com/2016/09/wikileaks-g ... to-donors/

it seems unlikely to me that Obama and Blagojevich had no connections

that is actual corruption



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17 Sep 2016, 8:59 am

The thread is about Trump, though. Generally you take them off topic by attacking Clinton, though that tactic seems a strawman to me, Jacoby. No doubt you will disagree!



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17 Sep 2016, 9:34 am

B19 wrote:
The thread is about Trump, though. Generally you take them off topic by attacking Clinton, though that tactic seems a strawman to me, Jacoby. No doubt you will disagree!


Nonsense attacks about Trump when they apply to Hillary tenfold is totally relevant

if you don't want to defend Hillary then don't defend her or her narratives



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17 Sep 2016, 9:38 am

Your objectivity re Trump is not at all clear to me. Trump's own modus operandi when confronted with searching questions about his behaviour is to deflect and avoid them by attacking someone else. You seem to have adopted the same strategy; I think people would admire your hero more if he actually answered things honestly and directly, and perhaps also accord you more credence if you also chose to focus on the actual doubts about his integrity, and respond to them specifically, rather than attacking his opponents as an automatic knee jerk reaction. The constant evasion has the opposite effect perhaps from what you intend.



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17 Sep 2016, 9:55 am

B19 wrote:
Your objectivity re Trump is not at all clear to me.


'And you would say you are objective towards Trump?

What is the issue of raising money for charity now? Lots of charitable organizations distribute funds to other charities.

Big difference between that and auctioning off public offices.



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17 Sep 2016, 10:03 am

I think you would perhaps be inclined to defend him as innocent if he did shot someone in broad daylight, as he said he could do without losing the admiration of his followers.



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17 Sep 2016, 10:06 am

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I think you would defend him as innocent if he shot someone in broad daylight, as he said he could do without losing the admiration of his followers.


He hasn't shot anyone(unlike the Clinton crime family but that is for another thread :wink: )

He's being attacked for raising money for charity here however, don't think it compares whatsoever to murder. Have you read at all about the Clinton Foundation troubles or do you just read anti-Trump propaganda?



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17 Sep 2016, 10:08 am

This is pointless.



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17 Sep 2016, 10:12 am

B19 wrote:
This is pointless.


Can you explain what you even think Trump did wrong in regards to this thread?

It's total lunacy to attack somebody for raising money for charity, I don't understand it.

If you attack Trump on this then how could you not think Hillary/Bill belong in prison for all the illegal things they did with their so called charity of which there is far far more evidence of much greater wrong doing.



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17 Sep 2016, 10:15 am

If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you. Sometimes it seems to me that Trumpism is like a cult, and I don't get that. Impasse.



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17 Sep 2016, 10:25 am

B19 wrote:
If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you. Sometimes it seems to me that Trumpism is like a cult, and I don't get that. Impasse.


If I don't get it and you can't explain it then I don't think you had a point to begin with. There is no issue with Trump raising money for charity, total non-issue especially when the very real public corruption from the Clinton Foundation is taken into accord. It is not uncommon at all for charities to raise money to distribute to other charities, what is wrong with that? I think as somebody on the other side of the world you are probably not privy to all the information and only adsorb to far outer outreaches of our corporate propaganda, you don't know or care about what is important to Americans.



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17 Sep 2016, 10:36 am

Trumps contribution is to put his name and face on it--that's why he need to buy a $20,000 portrait of himself.