The Hitchhiker's Guide to Defeating the Alt-Right

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Hi everybody. Let's talk about the alt-right.

The alt-right is a fairly new political movement that promotes Antisemitism, Islamophobia and racism. They are largely responsible for turning Donald Trump into the head of the GOP.

I've seen people talk about the alt-right. It's embarrassing. The liberals will usually say "NAZINAZINAZINAZINAZI!". The Conservatives will usually say "White supremacy? What white supremacy? I can't see any! You are just attacking conservatives in general you imbecile! What about Obama's anti-white racism?"

I will admit that I am guilty of handling racism wrong in the past. I have matured since then.

How can we defeat the alt-right? I will tell you. Bear with me.

If we want to defeat Antisemitism then we need to understand why Antisemitism still exists. Modern Antisemitism is largely a byproduct of neo-Zionism. We need to stop promoting the belief that Judaism and neo-Zionism are the same thing. That's why people are saying "Jews are dumping white phosphorus on Palestinian children!" instead of blaming Zionism.

Furthermore, we need to acknowledge that Islamophobia is largely a product of the military-industrial complex. They're mad at us because our leaders keep bombing the Middle East in order to get their bribe from ExxonMobil. If we stop the war machine, we'll end the cycle of anger and end Islamophobia. Both Clinton and Trump have militaristic tendencies. If either of them start a war in 2017, we MUST protest. This "clash of civilizations" will end after a decade or so if we can suppress our trigger fingers and our desire for bloody vengeance.

Finally, we cannot fight against racism until we realize why we have racial equality in the first place. The scientific community was almost entirely responsible for ending segregation. In the sixties, the "multiple origin hypothesis" had been disproved. Scientists realized that we are one of the most inbred species on earth. Separate chimpanzee tribes have more genetic differences than our races. People in different parts of the world developed different societies and cultures because they had different resources. It isn't about race at all. Read Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond if you don't believe me. We also need to admit that anti-white racism exists. It just isn't very influential.

Furthermore, we should not go on Twitter and brag about the "destruction of white culture" like some people do. That will feed the alt-right. We shouldn't argue that Jews are superior to everyone else either. That also feeds them.

We need to remember that the alt-right considers itself logical. Hysteria feeds it. Only reason will take it down.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to Defeating the Alt-Right: DON'T PANIC

No, it isn't. It often occurs in situations which have nothing to do with Israel.


I'm not prepared to accept this notion because it is not factually accurate.

In theory, I see why some corporations might benefit from stoking anti-Arab sentiment, and by extension Islamophobic sentiment. I don't think oil companies are the chief suspects - those who profit from war would be. But I'm unaware of any evidence supporting the idea that corporations are spreading Islamophobic propaganda to cause a war.

Most Islamophobia today seems to be related to terrorist attacks in Western countries. These attacks are largely unrelated to Western bombing of majority-Muslim countries. They are motivated by evil Salafi Jihadism. This ideology has been allowed to gain ground by the removal of Saddam Hussein, but it existed before the Iraq War. S-Js will use any action taken by the West as recruiting material for the disenfranchised young. The West topples a tyrant? Look at them, interfering in our lives! The West allows a tyrant to slaughter indiscriminately? If they cared about us, they'd stop him!

Stopping the war machine will not end the cycle. Recognising that S-Js are a tiny minority of Salafists, who are a fringe sect of Sunni Islam, which is only one side of the major Islamic schism, might do, but then people have been saying that for years and it hasn't worked.

The biggest threat is homegrown terror. The best way to clamp down on that is both providing Muslim communities with support and resources to combat terror, and being absolutely clear that Islam is compatible with the Western way of life. Stop young Western Muslims from feeling excluded from broader society and you stop most of the terrorist attacks. Stop those and you stop most of the Islamophobia.

What is the alt-left like?

"Alt-right" started as a self-applied term even if it's now used to describe people who don't personally accept the label. It was meant to refer initially to an alternative to the majority of movements on the political right in the United States, which were predominantly evangelical Christian and more subtle on issues of race and gender. The alt-right was predominantly secular (even if its members were personally religious), but much more openly nationalistic and frequently outright misogynistic.

The term "alt-left" isn't used, but there are equivalent terms in the sense that they refer to movements that are decently-sized but further left and sometimes more authoritarian than the mainstream American left. Ignoring Tankies (who are thankfully a minority, and the equivalent of Neo-Nazis rather than the typical alt-right), you have people like myself who would identify as Old Leftists. We're Marxists, to put it bluntly, although the overwhelming majority of us support free speech and the normal mechanisms of democracy (stripped of recent legislation and SCOTUS decisions that favor the bourgeois, like Citizens United) in states where the government isn't totalitarian and repressive. So, that would be the rough equivalent, if you're seriously looking for one and not just trying to be rhetorical.

You cannot defeat something until you understand what it is.

A movement yes, but unusually it is highly decentralised, it has no major money behind it, no real leaders and no unified coherent philosophy. Yet somehow it has played a major role in the American presidential election and it is growing in influence in Europe. Odd, until you realise what it really is and in turn how disruptive it is going to be.



It has elements of all these things yes, but that doesn't tell you what it is and I shall right now: The alt-right is Western European natives (and their American descendants) fully embracing not only the idea of a European or American or Western (or White for that side of the alt-right) identity but embracing identity politics of the kind we have seen in our recent past.

If you really wanted to defeat the alt-right you would have to go after that identity which is in its embryonic stages right now (hence why the movement's ideology is so diffuse), but I don't see how it's possible (not that I want that anyway). The usual tricks of proposition nations and redefining national identity as a form of niceness and tolerance isn't going to work - the alt-right rejects those ideas out of hand. Attacking someone's identity is like trying to demolish a wall using your forehead. Trying to solve or start debates over Islamophobia, antisemitism and racism won't even get you close to the heart of the alt-right, we don't even agree on all these things.

Antisemitism- Opinions on Jews range from Hitler fanboy to irritation with certain powerful Jews (see my now locked Soros thread) to complete apathy to potential allies in the fight for the West.

Islamophobia- is not a product of the military-industrial complex. It's a subset of immigration fear which is a fear of one's country and culture being changed from without. A special subset, granted, given the brazen attacks and calls for Sharia etc you get from a vocal (and explosive hehe) minority of muslims. The alt-right doesn't care what muslims get up to in their own lands as long as they aren't pointing missiles at us.

Racism - Opinions vary again. The two main groups in the alt-right are what Vox Day has labeled Alt-West (I would fall under this one) and Alt-White. The former being concerned with western culture, values, history, institutions, laws etc. The latter almost identical except they attribute it all to, and think it is inextricable from the White race. Even if you could convince the alt-white section of anything, it would have no effect on the (much larger I believe) alt-west.

My honourable and dishonourable opponents in the culture war have a much bigger problem on their hands than they realise.