'Wednesday Hillary Clinton is done" Assange to speak Tuesday

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02 Oct 2016, 9:55 am

Julian Assange will be making an announcement from the balcony at the Ecuadorian embassy in London which is Wikileaks 10th anniversary. He's been pretty much saying flat out that he has an October surprise for Hillary for a long time now, wonder if he'll deliver. In fact Assange has said that he had information that would put Hillary in prison altho I think he overestimates our commitment to the rule of law.

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02 Oct 2016, 10:29 am

I have locked your 2000 thread because it violates the rules on duplicate/similar threads (WP) and creating 3+ threads in a day (PPR). I guess you'd rather keep this one open but if I'm wrong we can switch it up.

I guess Hillary must have committed murder, given Assange doesn't think you should go to prison for rape.



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02 Oct 2016, 10:45 am

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I have locked your 2000 thread because it violates the rules on duplicate/similar threads (WP) and creating 3+ threads in a day (PPR). I guess you'd rather keep this one open but if I'm wrong we can switch it up.

I guess Hillary must have committed murder, given Assange doesn't think you should go to prison for rape.


I don't agree with closing any of my threads, why are you so selective with modding? Now I know there are time constraints and you might not can't everything but closing legitimate threads(relative to bat**** troll threads, many of which are left open) does not seem right. Similar topics? I think you have a lot of thread closing in that regard then.

Why do you believe that nonsense about that bogus Swedish rape charge? Apparently not getting a STD test after having sex is rape? A condom tearing is rape? Assange is being illegally detained by the UK and Swedish governments for obvious political reasons. It isn't like he held a women down and bit her lip until she bled and then intimidated the woman after the fact to stay quite, that's Juanita Broaderick and Bill Clinton.



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02 Oct 2016, 11:14 am

I made 2 threads 23 and half hours after I made one previously, oh no! Real tight ship you're running! Can I recreate the locked thread now that it's been 24 and half hours?



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02 Oct 2016, 2:12 pm

Hopefully it's something good. Will look forward to Wednesday, :)


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02 Oct 2016, 5:16 pm

The announcement from the balcony has now been canceled due to "security concrns", he'll be making the announcement live via video now on Tuesday instead

No doubt there are a lot of bad people that want Julian Assange dead



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02 Oct 2016, 5:27 pm

Jacoby wrote:
The announcement from the balcony has now been canceled due to "security concrns", he'll be making the announcement live via video now on Tuesday instead

No doubt there are a lot of bad people that want Julian Assange dead



Namely Clinton probably now, especially with how her enemies so conveniently die. Here's hoping he actually gets to say whatever it is he intends to and hopefully it might stop the Clintons from being in power once again. I don't like Trump, he's stupid and a bully, but unless Johnson or Castle can win then at least he's not a traitor like the Clintons.


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02 Oct 2016, 5:40 pm

Dear US Citizens.
wtf?

how did you bring yourself, and through your imperial power all of us, the rest of the world, into this mess?
how is it that southpark's "douche and turdsandwich" joke has become less of a bitter joke and more of a cynical but accurate description of the state of your democracy? ...

... well... even the ancient greeks at some point thought voting was unfair, and chose their leaders by drawing ballots. I guess they had reached this stage we're at as well.


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02 Oct 2016, 6:15 pm

shlaifu wrote:
Dear US Citizens.
wtf?

how did you bring yourself, and through your imperial power all of us, the rest of the world, into this mess?
how is it that southpark's "douche and turdsandwich" joke has become less of a bitter joke and more of a cynical but accurate description of the state of your democracy? ...

... well... even the ancient greeks at some point thought voting was unfair, and chose their leaders by drawing ballots. I guess they had reached this stage we're at as well.


Our political establishment along with their billionaire donor class have hijacked our democracy, Trump is the result of decades of this rigging and enslavement. This establishment has made change impossible and it has turned our democracy against us, Trump is the warrior to bring this whole broken system down. It similar to things all over the world in many countries, believe it or not actually the next mayor Sao Paulo, Brazil will be a former host of Brazil's version of Donald Trump's apprentice. The DNC rigged their nominating process, they made it into a coronation while Trump was able defeat the establishment forces in the Republican party. The establishment is not a lot of people, it's small elitist group as you can see from the NeverTrump Republicans who have now regrouped behind their plan B in Hillary Clinton. Often we don't have any choice in an election, there was no real difference between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in 2012.

You can only be lied to so long, you can only have people look down their noses at you so long, we've been ripped off in this country by these people and they only want more more more. Enough is enough! The self-described 'masters of the universe' might not have our best interests at heart!

There have been honorable men to run for the presidency but honorable men cannot win in a gamed system, the way Trump has ran his campaign is the reason why he is where he is. We're not electing a pope, we not venerating someone with sainthood, we're electing a president and we need a fighter on our behalf not a push over. Trump doesn't need to run, he has a great life and family with all the money and fame he could ever need which is part of the reason people trust him because he has no reason to be corrupt unlike the Clinton's who have never created a job in their lives but somehow still have a net worth in the hundreds of millions thanks to influence peddling! That's corruption!



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02 Oct 2016, 6:22 pm

I think you are putting Trump on a higher plane than even Trump would place himself.



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02 Oct 2016, 6:28 pm

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I think you are putting Trump on a higher plane than even Trump would place himself.


The only thing going for him is that he's not Billary.


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03 Oct 2016, 12:09 am

I wonder if this is why Biden was on Law and Order SVU and The Tonight Show last week.


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03 Oct 2016, 6:55 am

Jacoby wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
Dear US Citizens.
wtf?

how did you bring yourself, and through your imperial power all of us, the rest of the world, into this mess?
how is it that southpark's "douche and turdsandwich" joke has become less of a bitter joke and more of a cynical but accurate description of the state of your democracy? ...

... well... even the ancient greeks at some point thought voting was unfair, and chose their leaders by drawing ballots. I guess they had reached this stage we're at as well.


Our political establishment along with their billionaire donor class have hijacked our democracy, Trump is the result of decades of this rigging and enslavement. This establishment has made change impossible and it has turned our democracy against us, Trump is the warrior to bring this whole broken system down. It similar to things all over the world in many countries, believe it or not actually the next mayor Sao Paulo, Brazil will be a former host of Brazil's version of Donald Trump's apprentice. The DNC rigged their nominating process, they made it into a coronation while Trump was able defeat the establishment forces in the Republican party. The establishment is not a lot of people, it's small elitist group as you can see from the NeverTrump Republicans who have now regrouped behind their plan B in Hillary Clinton. Often we don't have any choice in an election, there was no real difference between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in 2012.

You can only be lied to so long, you can only have people look down their noses at you so long, we've been ripped off in this country by these people and they only want more more more. Enough is enough! The self-described 'masters of the universe' might not have our best interests at heart!

There have been honorable men to run for the presidency but honorable men cannot win in a gamed system, the way Trump has ran his campaign is the reason why he is where he is. We're not electing a pope, we not venerating someone with sainthood, we're electing a president and we need a fighter on our behalf not a push over. Trump doesn't need to run, he has a great life and family with all the money and fame he could ever need which is part of the reason people trust him because he has no reason to be corrupt unlike the Clinton's who have never created a job in their lives but somehow still have a net worth in the hundreds of millions thanks to influence peddling! That's corruption!



hmm. you lost me halfway through.
it made sense while you were writing about trump being a candidate to bring down the system- although I'd rather believe the market will be unimpressed, and at best keep doing what it does- and at worst orient itself elsewhere (asia?). the latter case significantly changing the system, but probably not collapsing it and probably making life a lot worse for western societies. but okay, I get your point there.

but then you go on about trump being a strong fighter for the people, and that's what I'm not getting. In the past, he's only been a strong fighter for himself. One must assume that the power that comes with being a president comes with the possibility for personal gains - that's, as you write not incorrectly, how the clintons got filthy rich-
I just can't follow why trump would do this to fight for the people, while historically, he's always only tried to get the best for himself.


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03 Oct 2016, 10:19 am

Trump likes the reputation of a pugilist, he's a fighter as in he'll stand up for what he believes in regardless if political correctness says he should and I don't believe he'll be a sell out or a push over like certain past Republican candidates or even maybe Obama as president if you want to go that route. I don't think he has ulterior motives, he doesn't need money so I don't think he's running to help the corporate fat cats and the Beltway lobbyists but rather genuinely the American people and what he thinks will make this country to most prosperous. I trust Trump far more than I trust either of the Clinton's, I don't think Trump's ego would allow him to put it in the tank and he's not a rigid ideologue in any sense. Something that always gets lost about Trump while the media tries to smear him as some authoritarian ideologue when he's always cultivated the image of a deal maker and pragmatist.

Trump is the most moderate Republican in modern US history in terms of a lot of his views, he's not somebody that wants to cut Social Security or Medicare and he's made infrastructure(wall included :P ) a priority as well. You might not agree with his views on everything(you have to understand that his campaign is a lot more than 20 second soundbites they show you on CNN, it's far bigger than that and I don't really think those overseas are getting anything other than agenda news about how evil Trump and I'm sure this is really bad in countries like Germany/Austria. Trump isn't a rigid social conservative, I don't think too many people believe he is and he's very supportive of the LGBTQ community which has come under attack in this country. Do people believe Trump personally is a racist? He's a Manhattan socialite that grew up in Queens in his dad's construction sites so he was interacting with people of all races and class his whole life and he's never actually fit in that well with Manhattan high society. You look at a person's actions in life and Trump actually was somewhat of a pioneer in minority and female corporate hiring, I posted a Youtube video of him being introduced by Jesse Jackson in like 1999 or whenever as his close friend at conference for his Rainbow-PUSH Coalition. When Trump opened Mar-A-Lago in the early 90s, he needed to get approved by the local town council in Palm Beach but was having trouble because he wanted be inclusive to Jewish and black membership which I don't believe any of the country clubs or whatever in that area did at the time and there are still to this day clubs like that.

These are things we knew long before he ever ran for president, I just don't think he's the most terrible racist of all time because he wanted to see Obama's birth certificate which was a perfectly legitimate question. Obama played that controversy up for years and never released the record until a long time later, he used it a way to deflect criticism away because instead of talking about real issues he could just castigate everybody for questioning his birthplace. Opposing illegal immigration is not racist, likening all illegal immigrants to Mexicans like our media has down is actually far more racist than anything Trump. The context of the 'rapist and murderers' remarks are specially about illegal border crossers on our southern border and the fact that Mexico facilitates the movement of migrants from Central America to the border of the US because they don't want them to stay in their country and when you're not able to vet people at all entering this country as now know in Europe that some of these people are not so nice.

The crime along both sides of our border is unfathomable, do Europeans understand the how much bloodshed there has been? The Drug War in Mexico wherein the cartels that make ISIS blush basically have infiltrated the government and police of that country, these cartels are the people that are the drug and human traffickers and they've fought against the Mexican government and probably even more so among themselves as they fight over territory for these routes into the America and we're talking about operating profits in the billions of dollars so these narcos are a lot more sophisticated and heavily armed than you could ever imagine. Nearly 200,000 people have been killed in the 10 years this war has gone on which is more than wars in the Balkans in the 90s! People just don't understand the context.

Trump's initial idea about barring Muslim entry into the US was bit reactionary but it's emotional time after a terrorist and it so frustrating the complete lack of leadership shown on this issue from the Obama administration. Trump revised his position to a more sensible one where he bars immigration from countries 'compromised by terrorism' meaning countries where we cannot vet whoever is coming over here which Obama's own FBI director said was an impossibility. Opposing backwards extremists values I don't think is a bad thing either, would you bend over backwards for apocalyptic Evangelical Christians? Standing up for our cultural values is not racist, if you believe in multiculturalism then why is that only we are not allowed to preserve our culture?



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03 Oct 2016, 10:36 am

Jacoby wrote:
The announcement from the balcony has now been canceled due to "security concrns", he'll be making the announcement live via video now on Tuesday instead

No doubt there are a lot of bad people that want Julian Assange dead

Yep. When governments and rich people want you dead, you are now among the ranks of Bond villains (from their point of view). Assange plays the part very well. :wink:


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Julian Assange and his free-speech brainchild Wikileaks were once lauded as global heroes of public service among United States politicians and policy makers. But by 2010, four years after its inception during the President George W. Bush administration, Assange and his organization were no longer considered lovable troublemakers and mavericks.

A year into President Barack Obama’s first term, Wikileaks was suddenly considered an out-of-control free-speech Frankenstein wreaking havoc on United States foreign policy and intelligence gathering at the direction of Assange, its proverbial Dr. Frankenstein.

The honeymoon for the whistle-blower web site, once a darling of the Democratic Party, was now over. Even more alarming, Assange’s personal safety and organization were increasingly at risk from U.S. concerns.

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Clinton’s State Department was getting pressure from President Obama and his White House inner circle, as well as heads of state internationally, to try and cutoff Assange’s delivery of the cables and if that effort failed, then to forge a strategy to minimize the administration’s public embarrassment over the contents of the cables. Hence, Clinton’s early morning November meeting of State’s top brass who floated various proposals to stop, slow or spin the Wikileaks contamination. That is when a frustrated Clinton, sources said, at some point blurted out a controversial query.

“Can’t we just drone this guy?” Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother Wikileaks via a planned military drone strike, according to State Department sources. The statement drew laughter from the room which quickly died off when the Secretary kept talking in a terse manner, sources said. Clinton said Assange, after all, was a relatively soft target, “walking around” freely and thumbing his nose without any fear of reprisals from the United States. Clinton was upset about Assange’s previous 2010 records releases, divulging secret U.S. documents about the war in Afghanistan in July and the war in Iraq just a month earlier in October, sources said. At that time in 2010, Assange was relatively free and not living cloistered in in the embassy of Ecuador in London. Prior to 2010, Assange focused Wikileaks’ efforts on countries outside the United States but now under Clinton and Obama, Assange was hammering America with an unparalleled third sweeping Wikileaks document dump in five months. Clinton was fuming, sources said, as each State Department cable dispatched during the Obama administration was signed by her.


Hillary actually does want Assange dead, this was in 2010 before he started exposing her so just imagine her feelings now!