Is trump factually correct?
Donald Trump says,
And when you’re a star they let you do it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
Dan Bilzerian also says the same thing,
"When you're famous, they let you do it, you can do anything, just grab em by the p****"
https://twitter.com/DanBilzerian/status ... 0971208704
I wonder why no body accuse Dan Bilzerian as women hating.
Do “they” really let you do it if you are a star?
I still have no idea why is this politically incorrect or is it at all. Be it politically incorrect or not, is it scientifically correct?
Is this true?
Can anyone verify that being a star does improves your chance of women letting you do much with her?
There is considerable evidence that this is not the case.
For example:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... woman.html
http://qz.com/804486/the-women-whove-ac ... l-assault/
It's pretty clear that many people are attracted to wealth and power, but it would be a mistake to misunderstand attraction as an invitation to assault, abuse or rape.
If it was true that "they let you do it," he probably wouldn't need to punch a child in the face to encourage her to submit to his sexual attacks, or threaten to kill her and her family. Of course these are just the accusations of one of his victims and an eye witness. Trump's fans will claim that it hasn't been proven yet. The next court date is October 14, so we should be hearing more soon.
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If I'm understanding the op correctly you are asking if there is any point at which it is okay to do something to someone that they don't want you to do (ie. "let you".) If he or she wanted you to do it, "let" wouldn't come into it.
The answer is no. However, you will find that this is one of those questions that gets blurry. I'm sure there are a lot of college campuses where this is something that is on people's minds.
Using power to manipulate people is nothing new. How one behaves is what determines if you are a decent person or not.
Trump is someone to whom power is very important. This article is interesting:
The Atlantic: Trump's Promise to Jail Clinton Is a Threat to American Democracy A candidate who accepted the nomination to chants of “Lock her up!” crosses a dangerous line.
How the heck can some random sexist comment is true... who exactly loves being molested? Different motivations ultimately, but there are people who only want to be with those they are attracted to either physically or mentally, and I think even less when it comes to seventy year olds with what looks like labias in their fatty folds under their chins, seriously.
There are probably some women who in some circumstances would be receptive to aggressive sexual advances from some famous men.
It's not the case that all women will always be receptive of all aggressive sexual advances from all famous men.
There have been several high-profile complaints about famous men being unable to respect boundaries.
I think what the OP is actually asking is more like "if you're a rich and/or famous man, do women throw themselves at you?".
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I think what the OP is actually asking is more like "if you're a rich and/or famous man, do women throw themselves at you?".
Wow ... just goes to show how open to interpretation things are.
Why are people dancing to the media's tune and getting obsessed over this when Clinton helped a child rapist get his sentence reduced by destroying the 12 year old in court, making out she had an obsession with older men and then bragging and laughing about it later on?
Not to mention the small detail of the millions of people she's killed and her giving arms to Al Qaeda
I'm not a Trump fan and he's revolting, but jeesh, this woman is sheer evil.
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I don't think she did that for fun. It is the defense attorneys job to defend their client.
I don't think she did that for fun. It is the defense attorneys job to defend their client.
She was forced into taking on a case of child rapist she knew was guilty? Laughing and bragging about getting his sentence reduced was part of her job?
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I don't think she did that for fun. It is the defense attorneys job to defend their client.
She was forced into taking on a case of child rapist she knew was guilty? Laughing and bragging about getting his sentence reduced was part of her job?
I heard that tape and it was a long drawn out story, but I think she was laughing about getting the better of her counterpart on the prosecution side. I absolutely believe that it is fundamental to any democratic law abiding society to provide a vociferous defense to those charged. Otherwise, might as well throw out the whole court system.
I don't think she did that for fun. It is the defense attorneys job to defend their client.
She was forced into taking on a case of child rapist she knew was guilty? Laughing and bragging about getting his sentence reduced was part of her job?
I heard that tape and it was a long drawn out story, but I think she was laughing about getting the better of her counterpart on the prosecution side. I absolutely believe that it is fundamental to any democratic law abiding society to provide a vociferous defense to those charged. Otherwise, might as well throw out the whole court system.
She destroyed the 12 year old in court, making out she had an obsession with older men. Would you have the same point of view if this was your own child? Or if this was Trump instead of Clinton?
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I don't think she did that for fun. It is the defense attorneys job to defend their client.
She was forced into taking on a case of child rapist she knew was guilty? Laughing and bragging about getting his sentence reduced was part of her job?
Why do you assist others in spreading lies, half-truths and distortions?
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clinto ... rape-case/
Could it be that other claims you make about the millions she has killed and arms to Al Qaeda are equally questionable?
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I think what the OP is actually asking is more like "if you're a rich and/or famous man, do women throw themselves at you?".
Wow ... just goes to show how open to interpretation things are.
Hmmm. let's look back up the thread:
And when you’re a star they let you do it
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"When you're famous, they let you do it, you can do anything, just grab em by the p****"
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Do “they” really let you do it if you are a star?
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Is this true?
Can anyone verify that being a star does improves your chance of women letting you do much with her?
No, I think he asked if it was true that being famous means that women let you just grab 'em by the p***y...
This is "Can you get away with throwing yourself at women?" not "Do women throw themselves at you?"
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I don't think she did that for fun. It is the defense attorneys job to defend their client.
She was forced into taking on a case of child rapist she knew was guilty? Laughing and bragging about getting his sentence reduced was part of her job?
Why do you assist others in spreading lies, half-truths and distortions?
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/clinto ... rape-case/
Could it be that other claims you make about the millions she has killed and arms to Al Qaeda are equally questionable?
How impartial for 'facts', Hilary's own website.
So she has some guy's word as her 'facts' against the evidence.
She's laughing and bragging about the screw ups and bragging about getting her child rapist off. Listen to the video of it. She's not at all uncomfortable about who she was defending.
See the former head of US defense intelligence spell it right out. No need to believe me.
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The fact is that narcissists operate from a sense of narcissistic entitlement. I understand Trump said something like he just lunges at them, can't stop himself, which represents that these were sudden attacks in which the victims apparently had no choice, time nor opportunity whether to give consent or not. He used the element of surprise to impose himself on his targets, it appears, from his own boastful account. Abusers do that, and that is possibly why other famous men in the Republican Party have withdrawn their support. They don't want to be seen as supporting an opportunist sexual abuser, and that is understandable.
I hope this thread doesn't evolve into a thread which attracts posting that seeks to justify sexual assault on misogynist grounds. It's an ugly kind of posting that I have seen on WP very recently, though mercifully limited to very few posts. I hope it won't happen again, here or in any other thread.
