Race doesn't necessarily predispose success or failure

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An analysis by Journal of Blacks in Higher Education of the Census Bureau found:

1. African immigrants to the United States were more likely to attend higher education than any other immigrant group
2. They are more highly educated than any other native-born ethnic group including white Americans.
3. More African immigrants hold a college diploma (49%) than Asian immigrants, which is double the amount of native born whites or quadruple the native born African Americans.
4. In 1997 20% hold a graduate degree as a opposed to 8% white and 3% blacks overall. Suggesting an equally large disparity between whites and African/Asian immigrant than whites and black Americans.
5. Reporting of people 25 years and older 86.4% have a high school degree or higher, compared to 78.9% of Asian immigrants and 76.5% of European immigrants or 61.8% of all immigrants.

Indian American are the highest earning ethnic group in US.

Nigerian Americana average earnings is 61,289US which is higher than French, Dutch and Korean Americans.

Do you happen to have a link or full citation for this study?

http://www.jstor.org/stable/2999156?ori ... b_contents
http://www.census.gov/population/cen200 ... igeria.pdf
http://www.census.gov/population/cen200 ... -egypt.pdf
http://www.asian-nation.org/immigrant-stats.shtml
Characteristics of the African Born in the United States. Migration Policy Institute. January, 2006

Additional

https://www.jbhe.com/2012/08/black-immi ... education/
https://www.jbhe.com/2012/01/the-colleg ... -families/

The funny thing is, African-descended immigrants from the former plantation islands in the Caribbean also have very high levels of achievement in the US. Like Black Americans, they too were cruelly enslaved, and in some cases they had it worse than blacks in the US-the French on Ile St.-Dominigue (AKA Hispaniola, currently Haiti and the Dominican Republic) seem to have been especially cruel and sadistic, so much so that when L'Ouverture came around and organized the slave resistance the French had no choice but to flee.

The thing is, Afro-Caribes just laugh and laugh at the whining of Black Americans, I saw some interviewed on TV once and the panelists shown all thought that Black Americans were worthless, lazy whiners. The thing I remember about that show was some guy saying "Hell, in my country they don't give you no spending money" in a thick Jamaican accent, then laughing. Then the scene shifted to Al Sharpton spewing his usual spiel, and then the host says "Well, why are blacks from the Caribbean so successful here?" Sharpton said something like "They are?" at which point the host turned on a little portable TV and showed the footage of the aforementioned Afro-Caribe entrepreneurs, and Sharpton had the ultimate deer-in-the-headlights look on his face. Absolutely priceless.

Asians dominate, then whites, then blacks ...

Silicon Valley tech employers (filled with Asians and Whites) have been screaming "Why can't we get blacks educated into engineering"?

So, companies like Intel and others are trying to fund programs at black colleges to get blacks into tech education.

Your family and the parenting you get predisposes most of your success or failure in life I think, culturally we have a sickness in this country and what we need is a restoration of the family and traditional values.

The family is doing just fine, man. As for "traditional values", no thanks. I'd like to stay right here in the 21st century.

As regards what predisposes success or failure, I'd say one's financial background is kind of a huge deal. If you come from a poor family, you are unlikely to succeed. It's an uphill battle no matter how smart or talented you are.

Haition and Africans immigrants came here voluntary, African-Americans for the most part came in slave ships. Why African-Americans are still as a group behind is an extreamly complicated matter.

That's not true tho, Asian-Americans have all this success why? They didn't come here rich, it's because it's culturally ingrained in them to value education. We all know the stereotype of the tiger mom right? It's not like it's based on myth.

And no, the family isn't doing just fine, there is a crisis of single parenthood and divorce in this country and it's the children who suffer. Our life expectancy is falling for the first time in the history of this country, we're a country and culture in decline. While you may enjoy hedonism, a healthy functioning society it does not make.

Good parents = good outcomes, bad parents = bad outcomes. It isn't simply being poor but rather a culture of poverty, just because a parent might love their child does not make them a good parent either. Some people(maybe not people like us) need a moral framework instilled in them to act right, maybe they can figure it out on their own eventually but somethings you don't get do overs at. I think one can be a great parent still even if they are poor, I do not believe one is permanently. I don't believe one is trapped in their circumstances simply by the nature of what their parents earned or didn't earn. That doesn't explain the achievement gap in my opinion, it's a learned helplessness.

Ok, Jacoby... you value family? Let me throw something out there; loving gay couple in a stable relationship with two adopted children. How do you feel about that idea?

Your opinion is wrong.

I do not care if a gay couple adopts, I don't think that precludes them from instilling traditional values. I don't think people should be trying to make political statements with their children or to test their own ideological theories on development but that is true for anybody and I don't think the overwhelming vast majority of people do that. I am very familiar with CPS and what they do, neglect is the most common thing they investigate usually resulting from drug use altho there is plenty of mental, physical, and sexual abuse as well.

If your parents are together, if they work, if they have a moral framework, if they take an active interest in their child's life, I think those are more important things when it comes to achievement versus simply materials. Now a lack of materials certainly makes things harder but there is more to the story, I think education(and healthcare and a whole host of other issues) in this country is a testament to the fact that simply throwing money at something and expecting results doesn't work. The culture needs to be fixed which is a lot easier said than done.

The game is Sharpton speaks for 'all blacks' and those who'd disagree with him are sidelined, ignored, or talked over. If they really go the distance to annoy someone names like Oreo, Uncle Tom, etc. start coming out.

It isn't that that aren't poor uneducated whites. There are so shortage of those, that is precisely the point. This is what makes the race bating so stupid. Poor minorities and poor majorities are more likely to have tensions , and this what can be exploited by political groups. Especially if one gets something and the other doesn't. This whole rhetoric about privilege could have some very negative consequences for unprivileged people. It is all very childish and solves nothing.

Of course we are talking in averages. There are black Americans that achieve and strive to achieve and also they don't tend to be happy about the underachieving communities nor do they take a simplistic line on the whole issue.