The right wing backlash has hit America

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Trump is a demagogue, just like Hitler before him. If he had lost there wouldn’t have been protests but rioting on the streets, caused by armed individuals. Somebody challenged me on this, stating that Trump had no army but then Hitler didn’t until he got elected either. He has been a cuckoo in the nest, kicking out all opposition in the Republican party before moving onto the election and this leopard is going to change its spots now? He is a nice guy because he has gotten his way and turns nasty when he doesn’t get it, like a spoiled child. A lion that has just eaten is no danger to the other animals around the waterhole because he is resting on his laurels – wait till he gets hungry again.

His supporters are apologists and deniers, who have their heads in the clouds. They are like the man in the cinema, who shouted out “Don’t do it Superman!” when Christopher Reeve kissed Michael Caine in a film – lost in fantasy about who somebody is because of the character they play. Even before he has gotten into The White House, he has started to renege on some of his policies, just as Hitler did (“The bigger the lie, the more it is believed”) an he played upon peoples fears too, in order to gain power.

I foresee Trump going the way GW Bush went, winning two terms in office but refusing to go at the end of it, starting a Trump dynasty (King Donald “Look at me ma, top of the world!”). America will have its first dictator and know what the rest of the world has had to suffer through the years as older cultures.

We also need to look at this as a world situation. As some have pointed out, Brexit was a decision in the UK to tighten up our borders. Now this American decision shows the same thing. France has an equally vociferous right wing and even in Germany there is a backlash against immigrants. Voting is a barometer of public opinion and it is showing a conservative withdrawal of countries in the west back into their shells. Is it just the West though? Under Gorbachev the Berlin wall came down but again Hungary put up fences against the immigrants and Putin is a conservative too, trying to protect his southern flank in his attempt to keep the black sea open to Russian shipping, which is why he supports the Ukraine rebels and is allies with Assad. We know North Korea is ultra conservative and ultra militarized but what of China, Africa and South America? Is this a worldwide move to shutting down borders and becoming more militarized? Is this something beyond party politics and inescapable, not forgetting the Arab spring as a revolt against the establishment?

Whereas Tony Blair was labelled a "firebrand". The difference between "demagogue" and "firebrand" seems to be entirely in where one personally draws the line between "left" and "right".



What's your evidence for this?



Until Trump invades Poland or starts rounding up Jewish people, anyone comparing him to Hitler will be justifiably mocked and scorned.



Nice imagery, but 100% rhetoric which you would likely describe as demagoguery were it to come from Trump's lips.



What are his supporters denying? The accuracy of your opinions?



More rhetoric. Incidentally, you can consider Trump to have reneged on his policies only after he's had sufficient time to implement them.



What were you just saying about fear-mongering?



You propose looking at this "as a world situation", without providing any context in which you would like us to consider it. What we're seeing "as a world situation" is a rejection of globalisation and the establishment which upheld it. If, as you suggest, voting is a barometer of public opinion, are you proposing acting against the will of the people?

It is mostly an anti elitist backlash with right wing elements but other elements also. It has also hit the autism world with an anti nuerodiversity movement backlash driven by a feeling that high functioning autistic elitists are hurting the interests of regular autistics.

If the next 4 to 8 years are not the end of the world as we know it due to nuclear conflict set in motion by the most immature politician that I have seen, and I have seen some doozys in my time I will be grateful. Sad thing is I agree with some core changes he and the populist voters want and I pretty much agree with their definition of basic problem.

Last edited by ASPartOfMe on 18 Nov 2016, 12:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

So sickening that people somehow can defend Trump and his friends after all they have said and done. They spout racist, sexist, anti-LGBT stuff all the time.. but apparently its ok to supporters because..? I really don't know at this point. Do Trump supporters just ignore the facts or just think "he is better than Hillary so other stuff doesn't matter" ? Or what? On here and other places- most stuff has just turned into troll wars between the sides. People act like Trump will save America but really don't have evidence for that. He is hiring horrible people that will help him get rich and hurt many people.

Let's go through some of Trump's ideas, shall we?

1- Muslim registry: this is compareable to Hitler and what he did to the Jews. So Sickening.

2- Building a wall. Mexico likely wont pay for this. So US citizens will. I highly doubt this will fly. So unless he gets funding from some other country to do it (which means more debt for USA), this idea is just horrible. Plus Trump has known to use illegals- so he will fly them in and use loopholes (like he has in the past, and how many people do it right now!)

3- Roe vs Wade overturned. Another mistake and I'm not so sure if this will happen either.

4- "Draining the swamp". Likely wont happen either, since he is hiring so-called "swamp" members now! What house and senate would agree on this horrible idea? Yes I agree politics is a bit broke in USA, but to truely drain the swamp.. you need to get rid of corruption on ALL sides.. not just part of it.


In my view- Trump is a conman of many words and fake promises. He wont get this stuff done. He will likely make others do his presidential duties while he is off doing some silly rally to boost his ego (he has talked about doing victory tour rallies!).. or he's trying to run his businesses. It really feels like he is treating the job of president as part time! Especially since there is reports he doesn't even want to stay in White House all the time! I'm not talking vacations either, reports have been saying he wants to sleep at his own place a bit rather than the White House. Talk about insulting!

Last but certainly not least- he is trying to delay his court date concerning the Trump University scam. They are saying "delay it because he is too busy". They apparently want it to be after he is sworn in as president. He will be busier then! He will just drag out the lawsuit even more (like he has done before- which has caused people to drop cases or settle quickly).

It's in America's best interest to get him out as soon as possible. He's a crook that has no place in the White House.