Obedience and loyalty works

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I remember as a child when we played games. Sometimes we played soldiers/war. But it always ended up in anarchy and discussions. Discussions. Discussions and discussions completely destroyed the game.

And I couldn't issue any orders to my comrades, as they never obeyed them. It was total anarchy.

The same thing happens today when I play Red Orchestra Ostfront online: There is no hierachy. There is no control of the group. There is nothing. It is anarchy. The only rules that apply are "no cheating" and "no team killing".

I think neurotypical kids needs to learn in school who is the boss, obedience and loyalty.

While I personally fear the military and feel sorry for those who are drafted, this is merely because of the physical and mental stress and if somebody are scared of heights, and because of this do obey the order and jump, he is put in detention.

But I do like the nature of the military. The hierachy. Everybody has a purpose in the organization. And you trust each other. I think military doctrine should be employed in all schools for neurotypical kids.

Obedience and loyalty is the key to order. Team work never works. It just ends up in discussions and the job is never being done. People need somebody to tell them what to do.

I think that although some approach with hierarchy is necessary, in many cases freedom is important. Obeying a boss is one issue that we have to deal with, however, individual creativity, independence, and autonomous actions are all important and something likely to be stifled under a system that is too hierarchical.

Looking at the world as a war game, although a useful model in some ways, is not perfect. Throughout the world there are those with different goals and desires, there are different objectives that need to be dealt with that must be weighted against each other. The military model does not apply well to actual human society outside of a serfdom. We need discussions in many cases in order to untangle our goals and be productive, I have been to a few productive discussions, and instead of bosses and hierarchy we need incentives more than anything else. It does not matter if we have a direct boss so long as we have reasons to act in a certain manner. Informal occasions though will tend to lack the order that the more orderly amongst us would want.

Not only that but some people hate being bossed around and told what to do. Including many people here. Why should someone from higher up the hierarchy tell them how to live their lives? It's a nonsense. Military tactics work fine for the military but as Awesomelyglorious has said people are just not like that. Many civilians don't want that sort of bullying indoctrination by their so-called betters and I'd side with them.

Governments, militaries, law enforcement organizations, and many companies need hierachical structures. Too often do governments fail to deliver promises because of incompetence and disobedience. However, people need to know the limits. Command authority should be strictly limited to in-business, and relative to purpose. Of course, you're very likely to get fired for disobeying your superiors.

Primary and high schools require discipline, which has been lax in British schools rather recently. The result of "you can't tell my children what to do!"? Take a walk around any city and you will see what I mean, if you don't know already.