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sly279 wrote:
ZenDen wrote:
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If it became a rebellion it would most likely be the government's hired guns that trigger it with scenarios similar to what they did at Waco in 1993 and Ruby Ridge the year before that. There is a point where civil obedience gets pushed to the breaking point and ignites widespread civil disobedience. The nation is probably considerably less stable now than in the early 90's and won't change much in the foreseeable future. This creates a climate where the dick in the hornet's nest scenario I mentioned in my last post becomes more plausible.
If my preference of dying on my feet rather than live on my knees is inflammatory BS then so be it because I am what I am.
What about shooting an innocent guard? Who is this guard and what is he guarding? Attacking from cover is common in warfare and has been for a few centuries in America and where American troops have been involved. What's your real American method, an old west style gunfight on the street with both parties drawing and firing Colt SAA's at each other?
Btw; please start using the quote tools. Makes things much tidier and easier to read.
If my preference of dying on my feet rather than live on my knees is inflammatory BS then so be it because I am what I am.
What about shooting an innocent guard? Who is this guard and what is he guarding? Attacking from cover is common in warfare and has been for a few centuries in America and where American troops have been involved. What's your real American method, an old west style gunfight on the street with both parties drawing and firing Colt SAA's at each other?
Btw; please start using the quote tools. Makes things much tidier and easier to read.
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What about shooting an innocent guard? Who is this guard and what is he guarding?
His name is Joe Brisson, you don't know him but he lives 2 blocks from you. His two little girls are the ones playing out in front all the time. He's had a hard time finding a job so this is what lead him to enlisting in the National Guard.
The warehouse he guards is full of food supplies and a recent shipment of AR type weapons. Tomorrow, Thursday, he was supposed to take some "leave time" to take the kids roller skating after school. And you'll attack this innocent from your foul cover? And then show us your pride? This is not the way humans live.
He was not planning to kill you. There is no "other" in this fight. It's one American killing another....for reasons of pride? This is not your enemy but in frustration you'll kill him because you can't get at your true enemy? Poor choices my friend. Use your head.
The German private on th beach had a family too and he was drafted and forced to serve. So what. Sad but such is the reality in war. That guard is protecting the weapons and food of the troops out killing Americans civilians. Wrong side wrong place. Most people aren't evil. We killed thousands of Vietnamese fighting for their home and family for a stupid ideal of domino effect. Hell most. Roth Koreans are just poor bastards forced to serve, but better believe if their friends start bombing sk they'll be killed just as well.
My friends are/we're in the military and in a event such as government taking guns they'd run off or turn themselves in to be jailed rather then follow unconstitutional orders in violation of the constitution they swore to defend with their life. War is harsh. Guys who stormed the beaches are friends with the guys who fired the machine guns killing their friends. They don't hold it against them, but rest assured they'd shot them if they'd ran into each other in war. That's the thing about war. No ones bad guy. Most are just good guys found on opposite sides of each other.
Everyone has a family and backstory, a planned future. Criminals have families too. Is what it is. I hope it won't ever come to bloodshed. It won't be pretty. They're be revenge killings on both sides. Thousands if not millions will die. The USA that comes out of it if it does won't be the same. But 100 million gun owners not just surrender and walk off to reeducation camps willingly like anti gun people believe we will. Many current and ex military will fight. Navy seals train to take down countries. Our power grid weak. This country will colaspe into arnarcy after few weeks without power and supplies. Ex military training people could bring this nation to a standstill.the gov trained them how to. They've gen been trained how to train locals into guerrilla units. It'll be Afghanistan all over. We trained them to. They used our training against us.
"The German private on the (edit) beach had a family too and he was drafted and forced to serve. So what."
Thank you for bringing this back. I see you're wondering "What's wrong...." I think it slipped past others.
The "German on the beach...." was part of an attempt at invasion of others." He was part of a national army. Do you see others on this forum who are part of an active army?
The point I was trying to make is that if you arm yourself with percussive weapons and go off with your little friends to kill someone (and use VERY VERY noble words to describe your filthy action) then you're nothing more than a TERRORIST. And this is how you have two misguided fools killing people with bombing in Oklahoma.
And there are people on this forum who would rather kill these 168 innocent people, through some useless "gesture", than "Live on their knees."
And all the slimy posturing and attempting to cover the reality of this is quite macabre; perhaps this is not proper discussion? It's no joke and idle discussion by fools can lead to real consequences.
This is the point I was trying to make earlier, when I was overcome with laughter by Raptor's "oh so funny" antics.
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