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16 Apr 2020, 9:20 pm

What’s wrong with what’s being taught in college?



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16 Apr 2020, 9:32 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
What’s wrong with what’s being taught in college?


Me?
Check the thread title. :wink:



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16 Apr 2020, 9:53 pm

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What’s wrong with what’s being taught in college?


Reality has a well-known left-wing bias. This is why some political blocs are much more hostile to education than others. :wink:


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16 Apr 2020, 10:12 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
What’s wrong with what’s being taught in college?


Reality has a well-known left-wing bias. This is why some political blocs are much more hostile to education than others. :wink:


You mean:
In reality,
Academia has a well-know left-wing bias,
At the detriment of intellectualism. :mrgreen:



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17 Apr 2020, 1:38 am

If claims that vaccines are helpful and young earth creationism is ridiculous are leftist then surely, there is a left wing bias in academia.

But seriously: Given that right wing is conservative and the left wing is all into trying something new, there may be some natural selection.
Academia is the place to conceive and test new ideas. People enthusiastic towards new ideas are attracted to it more than the rest. Thus, overrepresentation of left wingers is quite possible.


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17 Apr 2020, 2:05 am

Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
What’s wrong with what’s being taught in college?


Reality has a well-known left-wing bias. This is why some political blocs are much more hostile to education than others. :wink:


You mean:
In reality,
Academia has a well-know left-wing bias,
At the detriment of intellectualism. :mrgreen:


No, that's not what I meant. Perhaps that's how you feel, but I don't agree.


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17 Apr 2020, 4:50 am

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Reality has a well-known left-wing bias.


... care to offer a few examples?


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17 Apr 2020, 6:06 am

just dropping by to observe that all political & religious persuasions are pro-science when they think it supports their ideology, and anti-science when they think it doesn’t.

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17 Apr 2020, 8:18 am

You'll probably find crazies in every camp, but intelligent people too.


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17 Apr 2020, 11:04 am

To add another two cents:

Universities are places that foster academia. Academia is most interested in things that challenge the status quo. Thus, given that we typically conceive of the left as "challenging the status quo" obviously those opinions are more attractive to academia.

Sometimes things can get a little ridiculous. There are well-known experimental hoaxes that (frequently left-wing!) academics will pull on journals by submitting smart-sounding jargon and getting them published.

https://psmag.com/education/a-philosoph ... e-or-fraud

Also look up the Sokal hoax.

It's relatively well-intentioned and benign, I think. All that said, I've definitely seen weird trends towards academia publishing anything that seeks to dismantle "social constructs" and I think cultural postmodernism is as of right now a big academic fad.


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18 Apr 2020, 2:07 am

Whale_Tuune wrote:
To add another two cents:

Universities are places that foster academia. Academia is most interested in things that challenge the status quo. Thus, given that we typically conceive of the left as "challenging the status quo" obviously those opinions are more attractive to academia.

Sometimes things can get a little ridiculous. There are well-known experimental hoaxes that (frequently left-wing!) academics will pull on journals by submitting smart-sounding jargon and getting them published.

https://psmag.com/education/a-philosoph ... e-or-fraud

Also look up the Sokal hoax.

It's relatively well-intentioned and benign, I think. All that said, I've definitely seen weird trends towards academia publishing anything that seeks to dismantle "social constructs" and I think cultural postmodernism is as of right now a big academic fad.


I'll keep this short.



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18 Apr 2020, 2:12 am

Whale_Tuune wrote:
To add another two cents:

Universities are places that foster academia. Academia is most interested in things that challenge the status quo. Thus, given that we typically conceive of the left as "challenging the status quo" obviously those opinions are more attractive to academia.

Sometimes things can get a little ridiculous. There are well-known experimental hoaxes that (frequently left-wing!) academics will pull on journals by submitting smart-sounding jargon and getting them published.

https://psmag.com/education/a-philosoph ... e-or-fraud

Also look up the Sokal hoax.

It's relatively well-intentioned and benign, I think. All that said, I've definitely seen weird trends towards academia publishing anything that seeks to dismantle "social constructs" and I think cultural postmodernism is as of right now a big academic fad.


OK, perhaps that was too short. :mrgreen:

My problem with the infusion of left-wing influence in academia is the intolerance of concepts/philosophies which differ from their own. :wink:



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18 Apr 2020, 2:30 am

Whale_Tuune wrote:
You'll probably find crazies in every camp, but intelligent people too.


-A person's brain doesn't fully develop physically until they are around 25.
-At a younger age, the neocortex generally is not as influential as the more primitive elements of the brain, evolutionarily speaking.
-The emotional aspects of the brain tend to have a greater influence on younger people.
-Many/most young people are seduced by the allure of emotional satiation, rather than the satisfaction of objective rationalism/intellectualism.

Please connect the dots, errr, I mean the dashes. :mrgreen:



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18 Apr 2020, 3:51 am

Pepe wrote:
OK, perhaps that was too short. :mrgreen:

My problem with the infusion of left-wing influence in academia is the intolerance of concepts/philosophies which differ from their own. :wink:

In Math and Physics, I know several distinguishly right-winged academics - and several left-winged academics alike.
It may be easier in these fields, as in natural science, research is largely independent from political views of the researcher.


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18 Apr 2020, 4:01 am

magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
OK, perhaps that was too short. :mrgreen:

My problem with the infusion of left-wing influence in academia is the intolerance of concepts/philosophies which differ from their own. :wink:

In Math and Physics, I know several distinguishly right-winged academics - and several left-winged academics alike.
It may be easier in these fields, as in natural science, research is largely independent from political views of the researcher.


One could also note that here in Britain our premier university (Oxford) has maintained the secondary function of being the primary bastion of intellectual conservatism in these islands for several centuries.



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18 Apr 2020, 5:15 am

magz wrote:
Pepe wrote:
OK, perhaps that was too short. :mrgreen:

My problem with the infusion of left-wing influence in academia is the intolerance of concepts/philosophies which differ from their own. :wink:

In Math and Physics, I know several distinguishly right-winged academics - and several left-winged academics alike.
It may be easier in these fields, as in natural science, research is largely independent from political views of the researcher.


So, in your opinion,
You don't see a left-wing bias.
But many, including myself, do.

Perhaps things are different in Poland, assuming you are using that context.
But a political non-partisanship isn't the case here in Australia.

For example,
In your academic culture/circle, are western achievements frowned on and seen as part of the teachings of "White Supremacy"?
There are examples of this happening here in Australia, to our shame.