India violence is affecting people I know there
I didn’t want to get much in to politics but this India violence is affecting people I know there, bringing danger to them.
Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh to be sentenced for rape
PM warns against further clashes after deaths of at least 30 in the streets amid angry protests over guilty verdict.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/08/gurmeet-ram-rahim-singh-sentenced-rape-170827064016266.html
See also:
"Why do people die for Ram Rahim? There’s a MSG in the mayhem
Who is this man for whom these people die? A man who breached the trust of his followers, and raped them, repeatedly. A man who dresses like a joker, spouts inanities as sermons, and makes movies that revel in stereotypes
columns Updated: Aug 27, 2017 14:58 IST"
http://www.hindustantimes.com/columns/ram-rahim-verdict-msg-in-the-mayhem/story-w4fCF9V8CxqBvw2y7S7R5H.html
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This is terrible, reading about poverty in India's always been hard for me. Usually, it would be good to know that someone like that has been brought to justice even after 15 years but the fact that their's still people fighting for him and that it has resulted in as many tragedies is just demoralizing
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I know. This sort of thing happens in India all the time. I feel for you.
India is a beautiful country. People get passionate about things there. And people, these days, are frustrated because of the rich/poor disparity there...and because of religion.
Many people want to move on from that stuff...but you always have a few who can't "let it go."
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One of the challenges for India seems to be the length of its history. A lot of the states in the country act more like competing countries with all kind of border rules, tariffs, etc. and it seems like corruption and nepotism run rampant. One thing I do realize about how religion in the East can go wrong - people really have a way of giving their spiritual leaders access to their heads as if they're enlightened beings. Sam Harris, in Spirituality Without Religion, did a good job of covering the breaches in good conduct, erratic behavior, and general cruelty a lot of gurus are given a pass on as supposed enlightened beings acting by a higher rule set.
I suppose the best you can do is stand back, watch, learn, hope as little violence as possible occurs in the proceedings, and hope for the best outcome for their culture going forward.
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Something my India friends sent me a few hours ago:
just in the news...that man's goons had planned to create mayhem days before the verdict, (because they expected it?) a huge convoy of cars accompanied him and it had afire engine too which was filled with 1200 litres of inflammable liquid instead of water to put the whole city on fire!! some religion and some godman this!! !!
They didn't have a reference so I went looking, yep, sure enough. Report is in a language I don't know - I'm kind of stuck with English after memories of school years Latin, Spanish, Hebrew, have been lost in the intervening 35 years.
By PTC NEWs - August 27, 2017
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"There are a thousand things that can happen when you go light a rocket engine, and only one of them is good."
Tom Mueller of SpaceX, in Air and Space, Jan. 2011
Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh to be sentenced for rape
PM warns against further clashes after deaths of at least 30 in the streets amid angry protests over guilty verdict.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/08/gurmeet-ram-rahim-singh-sentenced-rape-170827064016266.html
See also:
"Why do people die for Ram Rahim? There’s a MSG in the mayhem
Who is this man for whom these people die? A man who breached the trust of his followers, and raped them, repeatedly. A man who dresses like a joker, spouts inanities as sermons, and makes movies that revel in stereotypes
columns Updated: Aug 27, 2017 14:58 IST"
http://www.hindustantimes.com/columns/ram-rahim-verdict-msg-in-the-mayhem/story-w4fCF9V8CxqBvw2y7S7R5H.html
I cannot comment on the guilt or innocents of this man but it's unfortunate when a person raises another human being to such a status that, in their eyes, the person can do no evil.
Community leaders should not be free from scrutiny.
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