Why is their a high ratio of Trump supporters here?

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25 Dec 2017, 6:27 am

This is something I am beginning to notice. In this forum, there are allot of Trump supporters from what I am beginning to see. I have my own explanation for why that might be the case but I want to hear yours. My guesses could be on a scale to stop on to totally garbled and incorrect.

Trump's campaign was about change and this may have had an appeal to those on the spectrum. Many of them feel disenfranchised, are struggling and want something better, pride and a good life. As a result, Trump may have appealed to them by offering those very things. The same spirit of change that drove Trump to win his greatest triumph in the Rust Belt might be in these individuals too. In addition, his appeal may have had a very masculine ring to it, there was a guy saying to you not to back down in society but to rise up and don't back down.

Many autistic people here feel disenfranchised by feminists from what I have seen, a very common scapegoat. Due to fact that it has allegedly created standards for women dating men to be so high that many autistic individuals feel they cannot compete and thereby receive love and romance. The end result is a feeling of persecution. As a result, many of them may be drawn to Trump. He is after all the antithesis of liberal thinking and is by no stretch of the imagination a feminist. He is offering to beat back liberalism, the SJWS and radical feminist culture all of which may be seen as being highly appealing to these individuals.



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25 Dec 2017, 7:29 am

What have you been doing during your recent absence from WP?

There are Trump supporters here---but they make up a minority here--and very few from outside the US.

I feel most people supported Trump because he was a symbol of change--any change. They didn't really see the "Alt-Right" component in his thoughts.

We shall see what happens in the 2018 Congressional elections.



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25 Dec 2017, 9:17 am

Its an American based site. So most (maybe 60 percent) of the folks here are American.

So you have to expect 30 percent of the membership to support one side, or the other, in an American election.

And you also have to remember that supporters of firebrand populist candidates like Bernie and Donald tend to be more vocal than the more staid supporters of the more staid candidates like Hillary and Jeb etc. Trump supporters tend to make more noise per capita than do Hillary supporters.

So that's why it LOOKS like there is an outsized amount of Trump support here when in fact its only about the same as the national average at best of less than 40 percent Trump support among the subset of WPers who are American.



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25 Dec 2017, 9:50 am

I think it's the horror that anyone, anywhere, could support an orange-faced fascist which then to see not just one but two or three that two or three is such an incomprehensible number that it looks like 1,000.

I didn't vote for him, truthfully both him and Hillary were beyond what I could vote for in clear conscience, but at the same time I'd have to say he's a far cry from 'literally Hitler'. He's learning on the job, bumbling his fair share and then some, and he seems to make both good and bad decisions randomly as if he's got something like a magic eight ball as the authoritative guide to his decision making. My biggest fear with respect to Trump for a long time is that he was enough of a loose cannon to star WW3 by accident because it just didn't seem like he had a filter or gave any particular premeditation to what came out of his mouth.

I've maybe noticed two or three out-and-out Trump supporters here, there could be more but TBH I can't think of more than that. Two or three is a relatively small number. I realize then again that when I used to feel like this forum had a strong authoritarian leftist bent that was often the result of a very vocal minority of about that same size.


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25 Dec 2017, 11:48 am

I've been a user here since 2010. PPR used to be full of liberal feminists. I recently returned here after a long absence and I found the lack of liberal feminists to be rather jarring.

Perhaps they moved to Tumblr.


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25 Dec 2017, 12:02 pm

What some may not understand is that Trump has way more support within the general US population than you might suspect from reading "mainstream" international news sources such as CNN or BBC. In fact, I feel confident saying that MOST white Americans support him.

This is simply a reflection of the demographic, not some perverse manifestation of a small group of people trolling the site.

BTW I try to avoid any discussions of Trump's merits or personal failings, but I felt it appropriate to point this out.


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25 Dec 2017, 12:41 pm

I don’t know of any white people of my acquaintance who actually LIKE Trump. And I do know a decent amount of conservatives (including my father, who cannot stand the guy).



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25 Dec 2017, 1:25 pm

@kraftiekortie within my wife's family, who are overwhelmingly liberal/secular Jews, I would say that most dislike Trump, as well as other social acquaintances we have who are from similar if not identical intellectual traditions.

Beyond that circle of comfort, though, we encounter mostly Trump supporters. In particular the people my wife comes into contact with through her business dealings. And these are generally well-educated, intelligent people. At least the white ones (although it's foolish to assume that all of Trump's supporters are white, in fact quite a few citizens of Indian origin seem to support him as well). In particular, self-employed people and others in positions of authority tend to support him.

Also when driving to work during last year's campaign, going through neighborhoods that I believe to be overwhelmingly white or Asian, I saw many campaign signs supporting Trump, but none supporting Hillary. The closest may have been some supporting the Democratic candidate for Senate, but not Hillary herself. The only Hillary sign I saw was in an area in which one would expect to find a lot of die-hard Democrats.

All this while living in one of the bluest states in the entire country. I can see how you might get a skewed sample in Queens, but if you can afford the fare, I suggest a quick jaunt to Staten Island. Asking around there, you may be surprised how much support for Trump you may discover.


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25 Dec 2017, 1:34 pm

It's not so much that the forum is infested with alt-right as they're rather vocal. The forum also has an over-representation of people who embrace various far-left ideologies. Really it's just 'normal, mainstream' views that are under-represented here.


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25 Dec 2017, 5:47 pm

I am around cops and prosecutor/law enforcement folks every day. I'm not exactly "sheltered" in Queens. A few like Trump---but most see him as a joke. Many were not too thrilled with Obama, either.

My older brother is a staunch Trump supporter.



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25 Dec 2017, 6:39 pm

He received 46 percent of the vote so considering this site is heavily American the percentage of Trump/populist supporters seems about right.


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25 Dec 2017, 7:21 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
He received 46 percent of the vote so considering this site is heavily American the percentage of Trump/populist supporters seems about right.

... except that Trump's approval rating has dropped since he was elected.


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26 Dec 2017, 1:13 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
He received 46 percent of the vote so considering this site is heavily American the percentage of Trump/populist supporters seems about right.

... except that Trump's approval rating has dropped since he was elected.


Not so much among his supporters. And if you noticed I wrote “Trump/Populist”. I did so because on WP there is more support for Trump’s campaign positions then the man himself.


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26 Dec 2017, 9:12 am

Trump’s populism is an isolationist populism, mixed in with some conspiracy theories.



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26 Dec 2017, 1:30 pm

I waited in line for over an hour just to vote for Trump. I didn't cast a vote in any of the other elections or answer any questions. I voted for Trump and left. #maga


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28 Dec 2017, 8:38 pm

People think I'm a Trump supporter because I point out what I see as problems and flaws in anti-trumpism and also liberalism. I still maintain there's way too much hype, hysteria and sensationalism involved regarding Trump, to the point where people flip out over him taking a couple of sips from a water bottle. It's just plain bonkers as I see it. So really I'm more anti-bonkers than pro-trump.