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June 28, 2005

How did the far Left manage to slip into bed with the Jew-hating Right?
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WHEN I WAS YOUNG, smug centrists used to tell me that the extremes of Right and Left would, extended far enough, meet somewhere round the back. And I never quite believed it. But here’s a story that seems to suggest that it really can happen. Indulge me . . .

First a recapitulation. The Respect Party of George Galloway famously turned in the best performance by a far-Left party since the Communists won two seats in 1945. Respect itself is mostly — though not entirely — a front for the semi-Trotskyist organisation called the Socialist Workers’ Party, or SWP. SWP members made up just under half of Respect’s candidates, SWP activists form the party’s main cadre and it is the SWP that drives the strategy, tactics and political platform of Respect.

When I was at college, the local SWP used to drive around in minibuses looking for members of the far Right to beat up. In those days the party had an uncompromising attitude towards those it decided were “racists and fascists”, throwing politicians such as Sir Keith Joseph into an adjacent sub-category and trying to get them banned from making speeches.

Next week the SWP begins the annual festival at which members, supporters and friends are spoken at and sung to on topics revolutionary and progressive. Marxism 2005 features grizzled Trots from the 1970s, Tony Benn, George Galloway, a poet or two and, for the third year running, billed at No 13 on the speaker’s list, a chap called Gilad Atzmon.

And that’s where the trouble starts. Atzmon is a well-known jazz-musician, an Israeli-born Jew and — as the SWP has previously described him — also a deliverer of “fearless tirades against Zionism”. But the tirades have got him into trouble with more than just the Jewish community. A Palestinian musician told me a couple of years ago that she would no longer work with Atzmon because, in her opinion, he was “an anti-Semite”. He had, somewhere, crossed the line.

In 2003, for instance, Atzmon, who makes many speeches and runs a very substantial website, said this about the idea of a global Jewish plot: “We must begin to take the accusation that the Jewish people are trying to control the world very seriously.”

Why? Because “American Jewry makes any debate on whether the Protocols of the Elders of Zionitic forgery are an authentic document or rather a forgery irrelevant. American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy. So far they are doing pretty well for themselves at least.”

So, he’s a silly boy advancing slightly dangerous arguments (or “fearless tirades”). And we might take no notice. It’s just that Atzmon does get about a bit — gigs, meetings, university debates, and yet one of his heroes is an author and activist, Israel Shamir.

According to Atzmon, “Shamir is a very civil and peaceful man and probably is the sharpest critical voice of ‘Jewish power’ and Zionist ideology.”

I first came across Shamir after I’d made a programme for Channel 4 on anti-Semitism in Islamic countries. In it I’d pointed out how the “blood libel”, the slanderous accusation that Jews killed gentiles for the blood, had travelled from medieval Europe to the Middle East. But was it slander? Shamir, who claims to be a Russian Jew from Jaffa, wrote a long article in response arguing that the Jews probably were guilty of kidnapping Christian children and drinking their blood. I was more than amazed.

Shamir both buys the world plot and has some very strange allies. “For as long,” he wrote, “as Richard Perle sits in the Pentagon, Elie Wiesel brandishes his Nobel Prize, Mort Zuckerman owns the USA Today, Gusinsky bosses over Russian TV, Soros commands multi-billions of funds and Dershowitz teaches at Harvard, we need the voices of (David) Duke, (Justin) Raimondo, (Pat) Buchanan, (Horst) Mahler, (Nick) Griffin and of other anti-bourgeois nationalists.” For those who don’t know, Mahler is ex-Baader Meinhof turned neo-Nazi, David Duke is a former leader of Ku Klux Klan and Nick Griffin is our very own Welshpool Duce.

And despite warnings about his true identity as a Swedish fascist, Shamir sits on the 16-person board of advisers of the international pro-Palestinian campaign organisation, Deir Yassin Remembered (DYR), named after a Palestinian village destroyed and ethnically cleansed in 1948 by the Zionist terror groups, Irgun and the Stern gang. DYR organises events that many of the great and good of the pro-Palestinian movement attend.

As it happens the Jewish UK Director of DYR, Paul Eisen, is a fan of Shamir’s, describing him as a man “who has no trouble whatsoever in calling a Jew a Jew . . .”

And Eisen is of Atzmon and Shamir’s mind concerning Jewish power. Last year he expressed the view that Jewish influence in America was “not over its muscle and sinew but over its blood and its brain . . . Lists abound (though you have to go to some pretty unpopular websites to find them) of Jews, prominent in financial and cultural life.”

It seems to have been on one of these “unpopular websites” that Eisen made a fatal connection. He discovered the site of one Ernst Zundel.

“Zundel,” wrote Eisen, “is a gentle, good-humoured man . . . Zundel understands people and . . . he understands history.” Zundel, a German-born Canadian, is not just a modern saint, but also the distributor of the booklet, Did Six Million Really Die? And a co-publisher of the rather heroically titled, The Hitler We Loved and Why.

In an article published last December Eisen explained what he’d learnt from kindly Ernst. “No one is able to show us, at Auschwitz or anywhere else,” argued Eisen, “even one of these chemical slaughterhouses. No one is capable of describing to us their exact appearance or workings. Neither a trace nor a hint of their existence is to be found . . . Nor would it be the first time that Jews have accepted and propagated stories, true, false or a mixture of both, of their suffering.”

It was Eisen on the Holocaust that sent the balloon up for Atzmon at Marxism 2005. Because Atzmon firstly circulated Eisen’s Holocaust-denying article, then told critics defiantly that, “my take on the subject is slightly different than Paul’s one”. “For me,” Atzmon continued, cretinously, “the Holocaust like any other historical narrative is a dynamic process of realisation and interpretation.”

Not a few left-wing Jews who style themselves “anti-Zionist” have been horrified by the Atzmon-Eisen-Shamir business. And a couple of weeks ago they began to exert pressure on the SWP to disinvite the over-fearless tirader. But the SWP — it of “smash racism” — has refused. The party issued a statement. It was, it admitted, a bit worried about Atzmon, because: “We think that some of the formulations on his website might encourage his readers to feel that he is blurring the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.” But, it nevertheless concluded: “We do not believe that Gilad should be ‘banned’ from performing or speaking. ‘No Platform’ is a principle that the Left has always reserved for fascists and organised racists.”

There are a couple of questions left begging there. Are the readers, in the SWP’s usually magisterial and definite opinion, right to “feel” that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is being blurred, or not? And is Atzmon being exempted from banishment because he is merely a disorganised racist?

Or is it that an influential section of the far Left has, in this instance and on this issue, completely and disgracefully lost its political and moral compass?



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30 Jun 2005, 4:07 am

8O 8O 8O

A person who lauds the contempible s**tbag Nick Griffin should be the last person the SWP/Respect should ally themselves with.... I always regarded the SWP as a bit of a joke, but some of the antics of the Respect coalition seem to indicate that they have lost the plot completely.


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04 Feb 2018, 12:55 pm

Feste-Fenris wrote:
June 28, 2005

How did the far Left manage to slip into bed with the Jew-hating Right?
David Aaronovitch

WHEN I WAS YOUNG, smug centrists used to tell me that the extremes of Right and Left would, extended far enough, meet somewhere round the back. And I never quite believed it. But here’s a story that seems to suggest that it really can happen. Indulge me . . .

First a recapitulation. The Respect Party of George Galloway famously turned in the best performance by a far-Left party since the Communists won two seats in 1945. Respect itself is mostly — though not entirely — a front for the semi-Trotskyist organisation called the Socialist Workers’ Party, or SWP. SWP members made up just under half of Respect’s candidates, SWP activists form the party’s main cadre and it is the SWP that drives the strategy, tactics and political platform of Respect.

When I was at college, the local SWP used to drive around in minibuses looking for members of the far Right to beat up. In those days the party had an uncompromising attitude towards those it decided were “racists and fascists”, throwing politicians such as Sir Keith Joseph into an adjacent sub-category and trying to get them banned from making speeches.

Next week the SWP begins the annual festival at which members, supporters and friends are spoken at and sung to on topics revolutionary and progressive. Marxism 2005 features grizzled Trots from the 1970s, Tony Benn, George Galloway, a poet or two and, for the third year running, billed at No 13 on the speaker’s list, a chap called Gilad Atzmon.

And that’s where the trouble starts. Atzmon is a well-known jazz-musician, an Israeli-born Jew and — as the SWP has previously described him — also a deliverer of “fearless tirades against Zionism”. But the tirades have got him into trouble with more than just the Jewish community. A Palestinian musician told me a couple of years ago that she would no longer work with Atzmon because, in her opinion, he was “an anti-Semite”. He had, somewhere, crossed the line.

In 2003, for instance, Atzmon, who makes many speeches and runs a very substantial website, said this about the idea of a global Jewish plot: “We must begin to take the accusation that the Jewish people are trying to control the world very seriously.”

Why? Because “American Jewry makes any debate on whether the Protocols of the Elders of Zionitic forgery are an authentic document or rather a forgery irrelevant. American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy. So far they are doing pretty well for themselves at least.”

So, he’s a silly boy advancing slightly dangerous arguments (or “fearless tirades”). And we might take no notice. It’s just that Atzmon does get about a bit — gigs, meetings, university debates, and yet one of his heroes is an author and activist, Israel Shamir.

According to Atzmon, “Shamir is a very civil and peaceful man and probably is the sharpest critical voice of ‘Jewish power’ and Zionist ideology.”

I first came across Shamir after I’d made a programme for Channel 4 on anti-Semitism in Islamic countries. In it I’d pointed out how the “blood libel”, the slanderous accusation that Jews killed gentiles for the blood, had travelled from medieval Europe to the Middle East. But was it slander? Shamir, who claims to be a Russian Jew from Jaffa, wrote a long article in response arguing that the Jews probably were guilty of kidnapping Christian children and drinking their blood. I was more than amazed.

Shamir both buys the world plot and has some very strange allies. “For as long,” he wrote, “as Richard Perle sits in the Pentagon, Elie Wiesel brandishes his Nobel Prize, Mort Zuckerman owns the USA Today, Gusinsky bosses over Russian TV, Soros commands multi-billions of funds and Dershowitz teaches at Harvard, we need the voices of (David) Duke, (Justin) Raimondo, (Pat) Buchanan, (Horst) Mahler, (Nick) Griffin and of other anti-bourgeois nationalists.” For those who don’t know, Mahler is ex-Baader Meinhof turned neo-Nazi, David Duke is a former leader of Ku Klux Klan and Nick Griffin is our very own Welshpool Duce.

And despite warnings about his true identity as a Swedish fascist, Shamir sits on the 16-person board of advisers of the international pro-Palestinian campaign organisation, Deir Yassin Remembered (DYR), named after a Palestinian village destroyed and ethnically cleansed in 1948 by the Zionist terror groups, Irgun and the Stern gang. DYR organises events that many of the great and good of the pro-Palestinian movement attend.

As it happens the Jewish UK Director of DYR, Paul Eisen, is a fan of Shamir’s, describing him as a man “who has no trouble whatsoever in calling a Jew a Jew . . .”

And Eisen is of Atzmon and Shamir’s mind concerning Jewish power. Last year he expressed the view that Jewish influence in America was “not over its muscle and sinew but over its blood and its brain . . . Lists abound (though you have to go to some pretty unpopular websites to find them) of Jews, prominent in financial and cultural life.”

It seems to have been on one of these “unpopular websites” that Eisen made a fatal connection. He discovered the site of one Ernst Zundel.

“Zundel,” wrote Eisen, “is a gentle, good-humoured man . . . Zundel understands people and . . . he understands history.” Zundel, a German-born Canadian, is not just a modern saint, but also the distributor of the booklet, Did Six Million Really Die? And a co-publisher of the rather heroically titled, The Hitler We Loved and Why.

In an article published last December Eisen explained what he’d learnt from kindly Ernst. “No one is able to show us, at Auschwitz or anywhere else,” argued Eisen, “even one of these chemical slaughterhouses. No one is capable of describing to us their exact appearance or workings. Neither a trace nor a hint of their existence is to be found . . . Nor would it be the first time that Jews have accepted and propagated stories, true, false or a mixture of both, of their suffering.”

It was Eisen on the Holocaust that sent the balloon up for Atzmon at Marxism 2005. Because Atzmon firstly circulated Eisen’s Holocaust-denying article, then told critics defiantly that, “my take on the subject is slightly different than Paul’s one”. “For me,” Atzmon continued, cretinously, “the Holocaust like any other historical narrative is a dynamic process of realisation and interpretation.”

Not a few left-wing Jews who style themselves “anti-Zionist” have been horrified by the Atzmon-Eisen-Shamir business. And a couple of weeks ago they began to exert pressure on the SWP to disinvite the over-fearless tirader. But the SWP — it of “smash racism” — has refused. The party issued a statement. It was, it admitted, a bit worried about Atzmon, because: “We think that some of the formulations on his website might encourage his readers to feel that he is blurring the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.” But, it nevertheless concluded: “We do not believe that Gilad should be ‘banned’ from performing or speaking. ‘No Platform’ is a principle that the Left has always reserved for fascists and organised racists.”

There are a couple of questions left begging there. Are the readers, in the SWP’s usually magisterial and definite opinion, right to “feel” that the distinction between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is being blurred, or not? And is Atzmon being exempted from banishment because he is merely a disorganised racist?

Or is it that an influential section of the far Left has, in this instance and on this issue, completely and disgracefully lost its political and moral compass?


Interesting. After all, Roosevelt and Stalin were anti-Semites themselves.



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04 Feb 2018, 1:40 pm

The USSR, purportedly “far left,” was not exactly a haven for Jews.

To many Communists, Jews were bourgeois. Or at least bedded with the Bourgeoisie. They perpetuated the capitalist order.



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04 Feb 2018, 3:22 pm

In more modern parlance Jews are considered "white" and thus privileged. The fact that Jews have done very well and are prominent in business, the arts, and media adds to the belief that they are privileged oppressors.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict fits nicely into the white people oppressing people of color story line even though both groups are Semites. Being anti Zionist does not equate to anti-Jewish but there is an overlap.

When Charlottesville happened I noticed most of the emphasis was on 1. Racism 2. Confederate statues and the idea that you are a racist if you support them. The main chant during the "Unite the Right" demonstration was not "Blacks will not replace us" but "Jews will not replace us". There are many Confederate statues yet the city with a Jewish mayor was picked. I do not think that was a coincidence. Of course hatred of blacks was a big part of that rally but antisemitism was a major if not most important motivation. The left (and almost everybody else) has not placed emphasis on this motivator.

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04 Feb 2018, 4:02 pm

In case anyone missed it, this thread is 13 years old.

ASPartOfMe wrote:
In more modern parlance Jews are considered "white" and thus privileged. The fact that Jews have done very well and are prominent in business, the arts, and media adds to the belief that they are privileged oppressors.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict fits nicely into the white people oppressing people of color story line even though both groups are Semites.

So close but so far...

While the huge disparity in power between the Israelis and Palestinians undoubtedly makes it easier for a Marxist to come down on the Palestinian side after one of their beloved "class-based analyses". However, anti-Semites don't tend to view Jewish people as white. Furthermore, talk of "white privilege" isn't really associated with the far-left - Marxists tend to deny it, while those who recognise it tend to be centre to centre-left. The big anti-Semitism problem is with the far-left.

Ultimately I think extremists, both on the far-left and far-right, think that politics is being perverted by secret cabals of evil people (people with more reasonable views tend to think that politics is being done badly by imperfect people). There's generally a tendency to want to seek a group who could be responsible. If "the rich" isn't a compelling enough narrative, then there's a great deal of anti-Semitic literature for people to draw upon.

Unfortunately the far-left are now in control of the Labour Party (which just three years ago had a Jewish leader), and thanks to their bizarre views are even more mistake prone than most politicians. While I think the publicly elected ones (like Corbyn) tend towards incompetence rather than malice, I'm going to risk hypocrisy and say that the activists getting themselves added to the NEC are so misguided that calling them evil is fair. They're deliberately ignoring and covering up reports of anti-Semitism while publicly denouncing it.



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The USSR, purportedly “far left,” was not exactly a haven for Jews.

To many Communists, Jews were bourgeois. Or at least bedded with the Bourgeoisie. They perpetuated the capitalist order.


My dad's people, Russian Germans who remained in the Black Sea region, were lumped in with the Kulaks or wealthy farmers, and made to pay for their prosperity. When Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, Stalin made a land grab by settling ethnic Russians along the Black Sea, and deporting all those Russian Germans to Siberia and central Asia. Many died in Gulags of starvation, physical abuse, and just outright murder. This, despite the fact that many Blacks Sea Germans had served with distinction in the Red Army, and were viewed with suspicion by the Nazis. While there were those who had collaborated with the Nazis, others hid their Jewish neighbors and friends from certain death - and got it from the Nazis if and when caught.
But yes, as far as Jews in the Soviet Union were concerned, Stalin proved to be the worst murderer of Jews in history, even surpassing Hitler.


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The_Walrus wrote:
In case anyone missed it, this thread is 13 years old.
ASPartOfMe wrote:
In more modern parlance Jews are considered "white" and thus privileged. The fact that Jews have done very well and are prominent in business, the arts, and media adds to the belief that they are privileged oppressors.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict fits nicely into the white people oppressing people of color story line even though both groups are Semites.

So close but so far...

While the huge disparity in power between the Israelis and Palestinians undoubtedly makes it easier for a Marxist to come down on the Palestinian side after one of their beloved "class-based analyses". However, anti-Semites don't tend to view Jewish people as white. Furthermore, talk of "white privilege" isn't really associated with the far-left - Marxists tend to deny it, while those who recognise it tend to be centre to centre-left. The big anti-Semitism problem is with the far-left.

Ultimately I think extremists, both on the far-left and far-right, think that politics is being perverted by secret cabals of evil people (people with more reasonable views tend to think that politics is being done badly by imperfect people). There's generally a tendency to want to seek a group who could be responsible. If "the rich" isn't a compelling enough narrative, then there's a great deal of anti-Semitic literature for people to draw upon.

Unfortunately the far-left are now in control of the Labour Party (which just three years ago had a Jewish leader), and thanks to their bizarre views are even more mistake prone than most politicians. While I think the publicly elected ones (like Corbyn) tend towards incompetence rather than malice, I'm going to risk hypocrisy and say that the activists getting themselves added to the NEC are so misguided that calling them evil is fair. They're deliberately ignoring and covering up reports of anti-Semitism while publicly denouncing it.


I was thinking more of the SJW left than old line marxists who unlike the SJW’s really have no influence here in the states.


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05 Feb 2018, 1:30 pm

Yep, Mr. Kraichgauer, it was a most inauspicious time for many.

We, in the First World of the 21st Century, cannot begin to understand what really occurred between the Wars in many places. Our Depression was just a drop in the bucket.



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Yep, Mr. Kraichgauer, it was a most inauspicious time for many.

We, in the First World of the 21st Century, cannot begin to understand what really occurred between the Wars in many places. Our Depression was just a drop in the bucket.


Indeed. We had no idea how easy we had it compared to other places in the world.


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I was thinking more of the SJW left than old line marxists who unlike the SJW’s really have no influence here in the states.

The article (and as far as I'm aware, the main issue) is about anti-Semitism amongst Marxists.

A Marxist came second in the hustings for the Democratic nomination for President.

"SJWs" also come from right across the political spectrum. It isn't a left-wing philosophy.