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06 Feb 2018, 4:06 pm

Hi all. As you all know, I like to criticize the political right for the most part. Today, I want to criticize the PC left for a bit ... or perhaps just ask questions.

One term that feminists have been throwing around lately is "male power fantasy". It's becoming a buzzword in that people will throw around this term without really thinking about its meaning. To be honest, I don't really know what it means. I'm not even sure if I should care.

I, personally, love history. I'm gonna be honest. I love history because I'm a man and history is badass. History is all about men who kicked ass using swords and armor. As I type this, I currently have this video paused in another tab.



Aren't male power fantasies natural? Men and women are different. We men have our manly fantasies about violence and glory. Is that really a bad thing?

Some people have told me "These stories lead to real-word violence." ... but I think that's a load of crap. I've noticed that this argument is used by both "concerned Christian parents" and feminists. In other words, the right-wing PC people have a lot in common with the left-wing PC people.

In reality, most of the violence in the world is caused by poverty. This means that manly entertainment is completely innocent ... in my opinion.

By the way, I am going to keep enjoying manly stories even if you think that this sort of thing is harmful to society. Try and stop me.


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06 Feb 2018, 4:19 pm

Never heard that term before.


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06 Feb 2018, 4:41 pm

I've not herd it being used but then I don't have a telly and I'm usually the last person to hear anything but I would have guessed that the term means fantasising about having and using the kind of power a boss has over female underlings, or a male who earns a lot more than his partner, basically having the weight tipped in his favour. Living inside some music videos perhaps.

What was supposed to be in the gap? Knights fighting? I don't think that would be a 'male power fantasy', more like male escapism or a female fantasy :D .
In history everyone owed someone for the power they held, compromise was constant, I don't think the MP's who chase after young secretaries because they can't believe their position doesn't entitle them to whatever they want actually want to take part in a melee.



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06 Feb 2018, 4:46 pm

I seem to recall Bayonetta being designed by a woman as her vision of a female power fantasy. Guess who decided that she was actually sexist and misogynistic?


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06 Feb 2018, 4:51 pm

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Race, Guns, and Gender, three things America needs to talk about.

I'm not saying theses are not important issues, however, I feel able to disclose to any Americans reading this that you do in fact talk about these things. Just in case you hadn't noticed, like if you were dead or something.



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06 Feb 2018, 5:02 pm

DMK wrote
In reality, most of the violence in the world is caused by poverty.

Is it? Rape violence is not caused by poverty, gun carnage is not caused by poverty, civil war declared by despots like Assad in Syria is not caused by poverty, the holocaust was not caused by poverty, road rage is not caused by poverty, colonial violence against native peoples was not caused by poverty.

Avarice, sociopathy, the ascendancy of demagogues are to my mind more likely candidates re the causes of violence. I guess you and I OP are very different pages. Human evil is the core factor.



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06 Feb 2018, 5:12 pm

I agree with violence not being caused by poverty, throughout history the aristocracy has sent working class men to die in order to gain even more wealth.



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06 Feb 2018, 7:22 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

Aren't male power fantasies natural? Men and women are different. We men have our manly fantasies about violence and glory. Is that really a bad thing?


Surely this is a rhetorical question...
Of course most men are impressed with power/status...
Evolution has made us that way...

In regards to your being less black and white in your orientation/weltausschau
Congratulations!
You have come of philosophical age... :mrgreen:



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06 Feb 2018, 7:46 pm

B19 wrote:
DMK wrote
In reality, most of the violence in the world is caused by poverty.

Is it? Rape violence is not caused by poverty, gun carnage is not caused by poverty, civil war declared by despots like Assad in Syria is not caused by poverty, the holocaust was not caused by poverty, road rage is not caused by poverty, colonial violence against native peoples was not caused by poverty.
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True, rape has nothing to do with poverty.
Gun violence however comes with armed robbery and drug and gang violence, as far as I understand, - things related to fights over wealth distribution that aren't exactly upper class issues.
Upler class issues are tax evasion and fraud and other non-violent crimes. Much more profitable, too.

The syrian civil war was preceded by severe drought which made poor farmers flee the countryside and flock into the cities. It's a climate-poverty crisis.

The holocaust followed economic crisis and hyperinflation. Indirectly related to poverty - if the weimar republic had been all peachy for everyone, the nazis wouldn't have gotten anything to blame on a scapegoat.

Road rage and colonial violence are not poverty related.


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06 Feb 2018, 7:50 pm

Pepe wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:

Aren't male power fantasies natural? Men and women are different. We men have our manly fantasies about violence and glory. Is that really a bad thing?


Surely this is a rhetorical question...
Of course most men are impressed with power/status...
Evolution has made us that way...

In regards to your being less black and white in your orientation/weltausschau
Congratulations!
You have come of philosophical age... :mrgreen:


Weltausschau?
Is that supposed to be German? (Happens to be my native language, and I'm not familiar with the word. Google doesn't give any useful results either...)


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06 Feb 2018, 7:59 pm

shlaifu wrote:

Weltausschau?
Is that supposed to be German? (Happens to be my native language, and I'm not familiar with the word. Google doesn't give any useful results either...)



I simply used a English to German translator...
You can find it here:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=worl ... 8AeVz5zwBw

Edit:
Apparently it isn't a good translator...
The word should have been: "weltanschauung"



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06 Feb 2018, 8:09 pm

Pepe wrote:
shlaifu wrote:

Weltausschau?
Is that supposed to be German? (Happens to be my native language, and I'm not familiar with the word. Google doesn't give any useful results either...)



I simply used a English to German translator...
You can find it here:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=worl ... 8AeVz5zwBw

Edit:
Apparently it isn't a good translator...
The word should have been: "weltanschauung"


Oh. Yeah. It's a literal translation...
Weltanschauung is correct.


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