Why do people feel connected to Israel, but not support it?

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13 Apr 2018, 12:33 am

So I did some very unscientific polls with a low sample size, so this could just be complete bull. One poll asked if people feel more connected to Israel or Palestine. 90% said they feel more connected to Israel. When I asked if they support Israel or Palestine 60% said they support Palestine. I personally feel connected to Israel, but don’t have enough information to really pick any side.



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13 Apr 2018, 1:27 am

Yes, I feel connected to Israel, but in a different way.

Are you a Protestant Christian? Devout Protestants feel deeply religiously connected to Israel - that's why many Americans support Israel.

Of course, I am against Israel and the Bible in all its forms(I am atheist tho) because I cannot accept a faith, or a state founded on it, that calls for the ethnic cleansing of my ethnicity:

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... chaeology/

Logically, since it had be proven scientifically that most Lebanese are descendants of the Biblical Canaanites (and most probably Syrians and Palestinians too), then all our peoples should abandon the abrahamic religions, since all of them refer to Judaism, a religion that calls for our ethnic cleansing. The bible shouldn't be respected by us, we should not worship a "God" who discriminated us and wanted to cleanse our ancestors.

And to me, the new Israel is founded as a form of European White colonialism.



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13 Apr 2018, 2:37 am

That's the problem with vague polling. What does "connected to" even mean?


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13 Apr 2018, 8:16 am

Israel is a western type country that White North Americans can relate to easier than they can to Israel's Arab neighbors. But that might not stop every White American from supporting every policy of Israel.



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28 Apr 2018, 1:46 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Israel is a western type country that White North Americans can relate to easier than they can to Israel's Arab neighbors. But that might not stop every White American from supporting every policy of Israel.


So how come Europeans support Palestine despite the fact that, for the same exact reasons you cited, Europeans should have a lot more in common with Israel? That actually puzzled me for the longest time.



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28 Apr 2018, 1:53 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Of course, I am against Israel and the Bible in all its forms(I am atheist tho) because I cannot accept a faith, or a state founded on it, that calls for the ethnic cleansing of my ethnicity:


Is it hard to be atheist in Lebanon?

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Logically, since it had be proven scientifically that most Lebanese are descendants of the Biblical Canaanites


I thought blacks were the descendants of Cananites and Lebanese aren't black? If my assumption is correct that Lebanese are Arabs (or am I wrong?) they would be descendants of Ishmael.

In any case, if you pick either Christianity or Islam you are good: in case of Christianity Paul makes a case that all believers are "grafted in" to Israel, regardless of their original descend; in case of Islam they say that its mistranslation that Isaac was chosen over Ishmael and actually Ishmael was chosen over Isaac.