Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

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19 May 2018, 11:05 am

Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Christian dogma says that Adam and Eve were murdered by neglect when God locked away the tree of life.

Eve was deceived by Satan and the talking serpent that God put in Eden. This caused the Original Sin concept that Christianity calls a happy fault and necessary to God’s plan.

Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?

Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?

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19 May 2018, 11:44 am

It was all made up to (literally) put the fear of God into the masses and make them easier to control. You can gain salvation if you do what you're told and behave yourselves. It still works today.


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19 May 2018, 12:36 pm

Trueno wrote:
It was all made up to (literally) put the fear of God into the masses and make them easier to control. You can gain salvation if you do what you're told and behave yourselves. It still works today.


True.

That is what all the revealed religions are all about.

That is why I promote the knowledge and wisdom seeking religions that put man above God where we belong, given that we invented all the Gods.

The Jewish interpretation of their myth makes a lot more sense. They see it as our elevation and not our fall. Christianity would be a better religion if they had followed the Jewish view.

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19 May 2018, 12:46 pm

GnosticBishop wrote:
Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?


Yes.

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Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?


No.


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19 May 2018, 1:16 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Was gaining an education and a moral sense, which basically is what gaining knowledge is, justifiable to you?


Yes.

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Can you see yourself punishing your children for gaining an education and a moral sense the way God is punishing Adam and Eve to this day?


No.


Sweet.

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19 May 2018, 1:32 pm

GnosticBishop wrote:
Sweet.

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Thanks.

From personal experience, I know that I have anger management issues. That's why I try to keep my PPR posts simple now. I don't wanna get b& again.


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19 May 2018, 1:39 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Sweet.

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Thanks.

From personal experience, I know that I have anger management issues. That's why I try to keep my PPR posts simple now. I don't wanna get b& again.


I have no problem with my well directed anger and I see holding back as a weakness after listening to this.

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I sometimes wish I had my bully side under better control, but in order to be able to try to get non-thinkers to think, you have to risk being offensive and I do not mind taking the heat for being in a religionist's face, especially given the damage religions do with their homophobia and misogyny.

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19 May 2018, 1:42 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Sweet.

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Thanks.

From personal experience, I know that I have anger management issues. That's why I try to keep my PPR posts simple now. I don't wanna get b& again.


I have no problem with my well directed anger and I see holding back as a weakness after listening to this.

Jordan Peterson
In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive

I sometimes wish I had my bully side under better control, but in order to be able to try to get non-thinkers to think, you have to risk being offensive and I do not mind taking the heat for being in a religionist's face, especially given the damage religions do with their homophobia and misogyny.

Regards
DL