What do you think about this class struggle video?

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13 Jun 2018, 5:42 pm



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13 Jun 2018, 5:46 pm

I disagree with it strongly because it blames everything that Autistic people are going through on capitalism. Another thing it says everything done in capitalism is done for profit. Plus it is from the Workers World Party a organizations that are North Korea sympathizers.



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13 Jun 2018, 5:51 pm

Dylanperr wrote:
I disagree with it strongly because it blames everything that Autistic people are going through on capitalism. Another thing it says everything done in capitalism is done for profit. Plus it is from the Workers World Party a organizations that are North Korea sympathizers.


I can't see the video that you posted. I haven't been able to see any videos lately. This site must be bugged.

That being said, the Worker's World Party is a Leninist organisation. The world doesn't need any more of that crud.

I will agree that the Dems need to be tougher on Wall Street, but that can be done democratically, as most people already have absolute contempt for Wall Street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdTmCI74_rw


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13 Jun 2018, 6:00 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Dylanperr wrote:
I disagree with it strongly because it blames everything that Autistic people are going through on capitalism. Another thing it says everything done in capitalism is done for profit. Plus it is from the Workers World Party a organizations that are North Korea sympathizers.


I can't see the video that you posted. I haven't been able to see any videos lately. This site must be bugged.

That being said, the Worker's World Party is a Leninist organisation. The world doesn't need any more of that crud.

I will agree that the Dems need to be tougher on Wall Street, but that can be done democratically, as most people already have absolute contempt for Wall Street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdTmCI74_rw

We Autistics are a lot better off under capitalism than Leninism/Communism. Capitalism actually benefits us do to it bringing people out of poverty, technological advances, and etc. I really like the Nordic model of capitalism which includes a welfare state with free market capitalism.



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26 Jun 2018, 5:25 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Dylanperr wrote:
I disagree with it strongly because it blames everything that Autistic people are going through on capitalism. Another thing it says everything done in capitalism is done for profit. Plus it is from the Workers World Party a organizations that are North Korea sympathizers.


I can't see the video that you posted. I haven't been able to see any videos lately. This site must be bugged.

That being said, the Worker's World Party is a Leninist organisation. The world doesn't need any more of that crud.

I will agree that the Dems need to be tougher on Wall Street, but that can be done democratically, as most people already have absolute contempt for Wall Street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdTmCI74_rw

What Ideologies do you like?



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26 Jun 2018, 8:46 pm

A few thoughts:

1) Our work world, as well as our definition of disability is on the Mortal Combat / Hunger Games model. It's really not a philosophical thing, its much more of a social Darwinist thing. Not only is it could you outcompete the person next to you but are you likely to bring the aggregate down on you by accident or even by things beyond your control. Disability or perceived disability usually invites a natural hatred and disgust, that brings the ape troupe down on you, hence it's a disability even if when left alone or free of apes you're perfectly functional.

2) He's refering to what I believe is called the Prussian system of education. Anyone, at least in the US, can get the internet. IMHO it's a horrible waste of people's time. As for being differently abled or not having a cognitive pattern that fits that system - Bret and Eric Weinstein experienced that, they both had struggles in school and both are not just highly achieved but brilliant thinkers. What we really need is more Montessori or Montessori-lite and our current technology really should offer us everything we need to be able to make that a lot easier, ie. to get the student to learn how they learn best and then apply themselves in the world the way they'd apply themselves best.

3) With the way our current system works, particularly economically and all the other levers that pulls (like education and innovation) we're having increasingly fewer numbers of games we can play that pay the bills, keep the water running or keep the lights on. I predict that will break down, hopefully not in revolution but really think creativity will find ways to open up new ways to trade value or to really bring certain things that have been horribly deprecated, just because a lot of people can technically physically do them, and possibly bring them back into esteem. We may also go through a major change in terms of how we view consumerism - ie. to have a nice car and sip that latte in the morning it feels like you just about have to chop off a finger every year or so, or do the equivalent psychologically. The more people feel that the more I think we're headed toward a situation where people will simply play a different game, like saving money and living frugally, and force the system to comply.


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26 Jun 2018, 9:59 pm

As a counter-offer Brian Eno saying something perhaps a bit idealistic abeit poignant.


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19 Jul 2018, 3:57 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Dylanperr wrote:
I disagree with it strongly because it blames everything that Autistic people are going through on capitalism. Another thing it says everything done in capitalism is done for profit. Plus it is from the Workers World Party a organizations that are North Korea sympathizers.


I can't see the video that you posted. I haven't been able to see any videos lately. This site must be bugged.

That being said, the Worker's World Party is a Leninist organisation. The world doesn't need any more of that crud.

I will agree that the Dems need to be tougher on Wall Street, but that can be done democratically, as most people already have absolute contempt for Wall Street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdTmCI74_rw

What do you think about Marxism, Leninism, and Communism?



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19 Jul 2018, 4:01 pm

This is why I disagree with Communism because it promotes Class Struggle. Class Collaboration is better because it is all classes working together to make a better society instead of accomplishing nothing through class struggle. Communism is my least favorite ideology.



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02 Aug 2018, 10:34 pm

Dylanperr wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Dylanperr wrote:
I disagree with it strongly because it blames everything that Autistic people are going through on capitalism. Another thing it says everything done in capitalism is done for profit. Plus it is from the Workers World Party a organizations that are North Korea sympathizers.


I can't see the video that you posted. I haven't been able to see any videos lately. This site must be bugged.

That being said, the Worker's World Party is a Leninist organisation. The world doesn't need any more of that crud.

I will agree that the Dems need to be tougher on Wall Street, but that can be done democratically, as most people already have absolute contempt for Wall Street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdTmCI74_rw

We Autistics are a lot better off under capitalism than Leninism/Communism. Capitalism actually benefits us do to it bringing people out of poverty, technological advances, and etc. I really like the Nordic model of capitalism which includes a welfare state with free market capitalism.

While I'm not a huge fan of Leninism, the soviet economy was perhaps the fastest growing economy in history.

Russia was an agrarian society before the revolution -and they sent the first man in space. This is a terrible argument.



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02 Aug 2018, 10:48 pm

Dylanperr wrote:
This is why I disagree with Communism because it promotes Class Struggle. Class Collaboration is better because it is all classes working together to make a better society instead of accomplishing nothing through class struggle. Communism is my least favorite ideology.

If only people would bring their hands together and sing kumbaya.



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02 Aug 2018, 11:04 pm