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17 Jun 2018, 1:53 pm

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I frequently curse my constant and irrational fixation on The Code of Chivalry... I blame the French!

Any other fascinating parallels you'd care to share with us?
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ALWAYS...blame the French! :lol:


Hey, I'm mostly German, so "blame the French" is pretty much second nature to me!
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They've been number one in Europe for almost all of the last thousand years, so yea, we pretty much all like to blame them for everything, and steel bits of their country, of course.



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17 Jun 2018, 2:32 pm

fluffysaurus wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
Trueno wrote:
I frequently curse my constant and irrational fixation on The Code of Chivalry... I blame the French!

Any other fascinating parallels you'd care to share with us?
:D


ALWAYS...blame the French! :lol:


Hey, I'm mostly German, so "blame the French" is pretty much second nature to me!
:lol:
They've been number one in Europe for almost all of the last thousand years, so yea, we pretty much all like to blame them for everything, and steel bits of their country, of course.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



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18 Jun 2018, 5:27 am

The Knights, and their Code of Chivalry, are very interesting.



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18 Jun 2018, 7:35 am

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The Knights, and their Code of Chivalry, are very interesting.
William Marshal is my favourite, he's known as the The Greatest Knight.



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18 Jun 2018, 7:52 am

I used to want to be like the Knights of the Round Table (in Arthurian legend).



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19 Jun 2018, 4:01 am

I fear that The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland shall one day disassemble into its components: England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Intriguingly, exactly like how the Germans refer to themselves as Europeans, hoping others in the EU shall do the same; the English have for years referred to themselves as British, hoping the rest of the UK shall do the same.

Assure me that will never happen!



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19 Jun 2018, 4:09 am

Believe me, a very high percentage of Welsh and Scottish people are happy to regard themselves as British. Most Unionists in Northern Ireland seem to proclaim a stronger 'British' identity than the English.


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19 Jun 2018, 7:38 am

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Believe me, a very high percentage of Welsh and Scottish people are happy to regard themselves as British. Most Unionists in Northern Ireland seem to proclaim a stronger 'British' identity than the English.
Agreed.

Also devolution wouldn't change the fact that we're all inter dependent due to our geography and shared attitudes. British isn't a nationality, it's meant different things at different times to different people. Being British is not dependent on us being a united kingdom.



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19 Jun 2018, 10:46 am

TwinRuler wrote:
I fear that The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland shall one day disassemble into its components: England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Intriguingly, exactly like how the Germans refer to themselves as Europeans, hoping others in the EU shall do the same; the English have for years referred to themselves as British, hoping the rest of the UK shall do the same.

Assure me that will never happen!


I am sure that NI will leave the UK at some point (and therefore the UK will cease to exist) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. It's likely decades away.

Wales will simply never leave England's side, it's quite laughable to think they might try.

Scotland on the other hand were 40/60 in favour of staying in the UK on their independence referendum. That in my mind is close enough to swing the other way if things in the UK changed dramatically and they didn't like it. and they are a proud people with strong culture.



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27 Jun 2018, 12:17 am

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The British, the English in particular, seem like the European equivalents of the Japanese.
Because they're both roughly the same size? Because they're both islands a short distance from a continent?


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27 Jun 2018, 7:17 am

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The British, the English in particular, seem like the European equivalents of the Japanese.
Because they're both roughly the same size? Because they're both islands a short distance from a continent?

Since Brexit everyone seems to think we are isolationist xenophobes. It's funny how balking at bonding with people on the basses of them being geographically close and looking like us is interpreted as we hate other countries and were racist.



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27 Jun 2018, 7:57 am

People in the UK today, I have found, are usually more progressive than many Americans. Even the “right wing” types are not as extreme in their “wingnut-ness.”

If they are racist, UK people are usually less vociferous in their racism. There is not the history of extremely violent racism as found in the US.



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27 Jun 2018, 8:08 am

I wouldn't say British people hate foreigners. Its just that we have never had a revolution so allowed the upper classes to keep hold of vast amounts of land and wealth. The only economic and political power the working class has is the value of labour so when the government imports millions of people they devalue the power and wages of the working class. It also pushes up rent and strains public services. Then you have immigrants and the children of immigrant telling you that you have white privilege and it angers people.



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27 Jun 2018, 8:51 am

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I wouldn't say British people hate foreigners. Its just that we have never had a revolution so allowed the upper classes to keep hold of vast amounts of land and wealth.
Unlike America that had a revolution and so allowed the upper classes to have vast amounts of land and wealth.

Wait, doesn't the Glorious Revolution of 1688 count as a revolution?


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27 Jun 2018, 8:58 am

The Glorious Revolution was a nonviolent revolution, primarily.



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27 Jun 2018, 8:58 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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I wouldn't say British people hate foreigners. Its just that we have never had a revolution so allowed the upper classes to keep hold of vast amounts of land and wealth.
Unlike America that had a revolution and so allowed the upper classes to have vast amounts of land and wealth.

Wait, doesn't the Glorious Revolution of 1688 count as a revolution?


America's wealthy got there through capitalism, through voluntary trade. The wealthy in Britain at large got their through violence and theft.