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imbatshitcrazy
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08 Nov 2010, 11:24 am

anyone have any idea?



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08 Nov 2010, 12:44 pm

Never seen any references to such in any Batman media I've read or watched.

Being he's a vigilante, I'm not sure if he'd have any.



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08 Nov 2010, 12:56 pm

As best as I can tell he's never been shown to have any views one way or another.


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08 Nov 2010, 1:05 pm

Given Batman's demonstrated behavior, and his rather selective enforcement of law (he doesn't go after anyone whose crimes don't actually hurt anyone - no hooker-busting, no beating up potheads, etc), I'd say he likely sympathizes with the goals of small-l libertarians (as opposed to the "Libertarian" political movement, which seems more like a rebranding of '90's-style Republicans). Maximize freedom for individuals, so long as their behavior doesn't hurt anyone else... He's also a prime example of a privatized police force. :)

I'm not sure Bats would have any religious leanings at all - he's had so many friends die and come back from the grave that it stopped being funny about the time Hal Jordan returned. Hard to believe in an afterlife when you know so few people who are, well, dead...


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08 Nov 2010, 1:40 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
He's also a prime example of a privatized police force. :)


No he isn't. He doesn't sell his works. At least, not yet. Batman Incorporated might bring something different, though. Bruce Wayne finally announced that he has been financing Batman and that he's now looking to take it global.

But yeah, it's not a privatized police force because he doesn't charge anyone for it. He funds it all through Wayne Enterprises. So, if anything, it'd be like Warren Buffet funding the police department.


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08 Nov 2010, 3:59 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:
... He's also a prime example of a privatized police force. :)

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Batman is rich. He does his thing pro bono.

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08 Nov 2010, 6:30 pm

Religious views: I'm not sure if Bats has any. Bruce Wayne has never expressed
any beliefs in any deity, so for all we know, he could be atheist/agnostic.

Political: Bruce Wayne is a rich dude, so he's probably a leftist-leaning Republican.


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08 Nov 2010, 6:36 pm

Kingdom Come has him with a force of batmen(women?). Although I don't see why a private police force would have to be run for profit to be considered private. It is after all still owned by a non-government entity.



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08 Nov 2010, 9:58 pm

ikorack wrote:
Kingdom Come has him with a force of batmen(women?). Although I don't see why a private police force would have to be run for profit to be considered private. It is after all still owned by a non-government entity.


You mean The Outsiders? Weren't they just a response to JLA, meaning that they were also pro bono vigilantes?


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09 Nov 2010, 12:15 am

skafather84 wrote:
ikorack wrote:
Kingdom Come has him with a force of batmen(women?). Although I don't see why a private police force would have to be run for profit to be considered private. It is after all still owned by a non-government entity.


You mean The Outsiders? Weren't they just a response to JLA, meaning that they were also pro bono vigilantes?


Again what does the fact that they where pro bono have to do with them being private sector. < if thats not what your question is asking I'm not sure what your trying to get across.



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09 Nov 2010, 2:39 am

Batman is rich.

He cares little for "the law" because most of what he does is illegal.

He is not an "Anarchist" or "Libertarian" otherwise he would ignore crooks who don't bother him personally.

He must be some kind of ultra-right-wing nut job.
Have you ever heard of him going to court to give evidence against some bad guy after he has illegally broken into the bad guy's secret headquarters and beaten him up?



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09 Nov 2010, 2:46 am

From what I understand, Batman represent elite conservative cynicism about human nature whereas Superman represenated common man FDR optimism about human nature. I heard it referenced on some Comic Book documentary, though (as Orwell - the bearded Irish-Ohioan, not the deceased British author) "I've never seen a documentary that wasn't pure cheese".


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10 Nov 2010, 10:55 am

Batman's religious/political views likely have fluctuated a little depending on the cartoonist doing the storytelling. My general impression is that Batman is a Republican (since he appears to be a pro-capitalist/pro-industrialist) and he is driven by the fact his parents were victims of crime so he decided to accelerate the system of justice in the USA vs allow the system to drag its feet at times and provided delayed justice. The adventures of Batman are not real at all - only imaginative storytelling - and Batman will do what he wants or feels necessary - actions which can be outside of the ideas of a political party or conventional religious views it seems to me.



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18 Aug 2018, 10:38 pm

Old thread, but Batman is a Republican and Superman is a Democrat. Neither, however would be pro Trump. Especially considering the Justice League is mostly comprised of undocumented immigrants.

Although, Aquaman would probably understand Trump's isolationist views (given that he is an isolationist in regards to Atlantis) - that said, he'd be against how capitalism treats the ocean.

The Flash would be a democrat, maybe a socialist with strong prison reform views and seeing the prison system as inherently corrupt (given that his innocent dad was unjustly arrested).

Wonder Woman, a Democrat. While her home has isolationist views, she always saw this as one of their weaknesses.

Martian Manhunter would be a Democrat and avid anti neo-Nazi, especially considering his home world was ravaged by "white" martians.

Green Lantern Hal Jordan would be a Republican (he often clashed with die-hard socialist Green Arrow), while John Stewart would be a Democrat.



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18 Aug 2018, 11:05 pm

Interesting point of discussion. Batman is a philanthropist, a playboy (supposedly) and a vigilante. He's also constructed a billionaire corporation for developing technology. So what would he be politically?

My guess would be he's a centrist liberal or soft libertarian, with beliefs in capitalism including perhaps some government intervention (see: his relationship with commissioner Gordon as a presumed belief of somebody to step in, perhaps a metaphor for the government at large). His vigilantism would suggest a lax view and dependency on authority which may be seen as anarchic but I doubt he is entirely anti government.



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18 Aug 2018, 11:11 pm

Mythos wrote:
Interesting point of discussion. Batman is a philanthropist, a playboy (supposedly) and a vigilante. He's also constructed a billionaire corporation for developing technology. So what would he be politically?

My guess would be he's a centrist liberal or soft libertarian, with beliefs in capitalism including perhaps some government intervention (see: his relationship with commissioner Gordon as a presumed belief of somebody to step in, perhaps a metaphor for the government at large). His vigilantism would suggest a lax view and dependency on authority which may be seen as anarchic but I doubt he is entirely anti government.


Here's the detractors from him being liberal though:

- Very capitalistic driven.
- He's isolationist towards aliens.

- Prison reform, eh... has he ever shown that he buys into criminals being reformed? May have and I don't recall, but if memory serves me right he's typically skeptical of it and believes it's an act.