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Aristophanes
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29 Sep 2018, 2:09 pm

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Then there's also the popular doomsday prophecy you're not considering because it's so widely read it's skipped over: the Book of Revelation.


The Book of Revelations is not skipped over at all. Quite the contrary. The problem with it is that is not an example of what we are talking about: a prophecy of doom in our own time. Unless you apply heavy duty interpretation to it to shoehorn it into one's our time.

And thats exactly what most end times prophets in Christendom have done in the last 2000 years:refer to the book of revelations and try to prove that it applies to the doomsayers own generation- which ever of the 100 generations that lived during the 2000 years that the Book has been around that the doomsayer happened to have belonged to. Lol!

And the recent wave of doomsayers are no exception. They all base their prophecies largely on the Book of Revalations.

In truth the Book of Revelations was probably political code about its own time in the First Century.


They're not all based on Revelations (although I agree, a lot are, and Revelations when written was deemed imminent), there's also plenty based on pseudoscience: Nibiru cataclysm, Heaven's Gate, even Y2K. Here's a list that's actually pretty fascinating: List of Dates Predicted for the Apocalypse.



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29 Sep 2018, 2:35 pm

Interesting.

People famous for other reasons: Columbus, Luther, Cotton Mather, got into the prophecy business as well.



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29 Sep 2018, 7:08 pm

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Ask yourself: has this world ever been stable? We humans have always had problems that seemed like they were going to wipe us all out like wars and plagues and pollution and all that good stuff. :mrgreen:


Actually, the world was relatively stable between WWII and present day.

Yes, there have always been famine, wars, disease, etc. But we have never before been able to terminate all life on the planet. Although with climate change we are doing it excruciatingly slowly.

Jesus was not the only apocalyptic itinerant preacher of first century. He wasn't even the only one who was also crucified. Revelations was necessary in order to continue the new religion.

I will stick to my main point, which is that when things are really going bad, there is not much interest in a doomsayer. It is when things are going well that the doomsayers gain ascendancy. Can't have all those people enjoying life, don't cha know.


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29 Sep 2018, 7:13 pm

"Even if it was just a brief image, it’s still a sign, and it points in the right direction.”
https://www.pressherald.com/2017/03/02/ ... for-25000/

WAKE UP! SEE THE SIGNS!

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29 Sep 2018, 7:57 pm

Civilization will reach it's peak in likely the next 20-30 years, upon which time it will only be downhill thanks to climate change. Rising sea levels alone will force mass migration that will make the current refugee crisis a drop in the bucket in comparison and will overwhelm all western nations causing their societal collapse, the global economy will tank. Add in more frequent and more severe storms, fires and droughts and it may even make society collapse sooner.



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29 Sep 2018, 8:22 pm

Noca wrote:
Civilization will reach it's peak in likely the next 20-30 years, upon which time it will only be downhill thanks to climate change. Rising sea levels alone will force mass migration that will make the current refugee crisis a drop in the bucket in comparison and will overwhelm all western nations causing their societal collapse, the global economy will tank. Add in more frequent and more severe storms, fires and droughts and it may even make society collapse sooner.


You know, all the big impacting storms, drought, rising water, etc, those will happen but they're not what's going to cause the real problems for humanity. The real problem is going to be the Archaebacteria, Eubacteria, and Protista kindgom collapses. Yes, those simple organisms will survive and come back after they've adapted, but there's not telling if those adapted forms will still be edible by the kingdoms above them (Fungi, Plantae, and Animilia). Example: cyano-bacteria (toxic to most oxygen metabolizing organisms, ~99.9% of current species) could take over the niches Eubacteria holds (the bacteria that process food in your gut, also the basic building block of the current food chain). That's the real danger here.

We'll be able to survive storms, rising waters, and drought, but a destabilized food chain is something we won't overcome. There's a reason apex and keystone species don't survive extinction events (as far as our current fossil record indicates) and that's because being built off of other organisms makes them highly un-adaptable. They have to wait until the bottom of the food chain sorts itself out to get a meal, so what do they do in the hundreds of thousands of years to millions of years in between? They starve to death.



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29 Sep 2018, 9:37 pm

I don't think people are that receptive to it, because we've all lived through Y2K and 2012 and it's not really in fashion at the moment. We have more obvious evidence-based disaster scenarios with climate change and the political system and financial crisis and wars, so I think we're busy worrying about those.



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29 Sep 2018, 9:43 pm

Enoch wrote:
I don't think people are that receptive to it, because we've all lived through Y2K and 2012 and it's not really in fashion at the moment. We have more obvious evidence-based disaster scenarios with climate change and the political system and financial crisis and wars, so I think we're busy worrying about those.
I see that many Doomsday prophets have cross-linked their websites, forming a kind of "echo chamber" where they can simply re-post each other's prophesies and stroke each other's egos.

Maybe when we have a new president, things will get back to normal, and the doomsday prophets will literally be back on the street-corners shouting their nonsense through bullhorns once again.


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