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17 Oct 2018, 11:51 am

I know that some states like Texas don't even do last meals at the prisoner's request anymore.

But one thing I've been wondering about... do they still feed the prisoner before they execute him? I can understand not wanting to give him a special meal of his choice because he is being punished for the crime he commited but not feeding him at all, even if it's on the day of his execution, seems kind of inhumane to me. :|



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17 Oct 2018, 1:22 pm

It's unlawful to deny anyone the necessities of life, no matter what's going to happen to them that day. They have the possibility of being pardoned right up until the moment of execution.



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17 Oct 2018, 1:27 pm

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It's unlawful to deny anyone the necessities of life, no matter what's going to happen to them that day. They have the possibility of being pardoned right up until the moment of execution.

So as long as they still get fed I guess that makes me feel better.

Starving a prisoner the day he's executed just seems cruel.

I remember somebody on the internet made a comment about how "giving a prisoner who is going to die food makes as much sense as putting gas into a car with no engine".

I don't think it's right to compare a human being to a car. Just saying.



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17 Oct 2018, 1:40 pm

In the US, in some jurisdictions, they get to order a fantastic last meal.

One got this meal
20 beef tacos
20 beef enchiladas
2 double cheese burgers
1 jalapeno pizza
fried chicken
spaghetti
1 fruit cake
1/2 chocolate cake
1/2 vanilla cake
cookies and cream ice cream
carmel chunk ice cream
2 cokes
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2 orange juices


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17 Oct 2018, 1:51 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
In the US, in some jurisdictions, they get to order a fantastic last meal.

One got this meal
20 beef tacos
20 beef enchiladas
2 double cheese burgers
1 jalapeno pizza
fried chicken
spaghetti
1 fruit cake
1/2 chocolate cake
1/2 vanilla cake
cookies and cream ice cream
carmel chunk ice cream
2 cokes
2 pepsi
2 root beers
2 orange juices




Yeah but apparently they quit doing that in Texas because one inmate ordered a very large expensive meal and decided he was "not hungry" when they brought it to him.

In Florida whatever food the inmate requests has to be purchased locally and I think in Maryland (I could be wrong) they give you a $20 limit of what you can eat.

I don't understand why Texas had to ruin that privilege for all the other death row inmates just because of one ***hole. Seriously, Texas sucks. :roll:



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17 Oct 2018, 5:34 pm

When people die they vomit and or poop out anything they’ve eaten. I’d hate to have to clean that mess up. Is that maybe a concern for not feeding them before execution?



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17 Oct 2018, 6:45 pm

Think about it, they deny the guy food, strap him to the chair and then the president calls with a stay or pardon. They unstrap him from the chair and he sues the government for mistreatment.

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I remember somebody on the internet made a comment about how "giving a prisoner who is going to die food makes as much sense as putting gas into a car with no engine".

I don't think it's right to compare a human being to a car. Just saying.

That's not even the same comparison, it'd be more accurate to compare it to putting gasoline into a car whose engine is going to be removed later that day. Or going the other way, your analogy would be better compared to putting food into someone that's already dead.



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17 Oct 2018, 7:13 pm

Deemar wrote:
Think about it, they deny the guy food, strap him to the chair and then the president calls with a stay or pardon. They unstrap him from the chair and he sues the government for mistreatment.

TW1ZTY wrote:
I remember somebody on the internet made a comment about how "giving a prisoner who is going to die food makes as much sense as putting gas into a car with no engine".

I don't think it's right to compare a human being to a car. Just saying.

That's not even the same comparison, it'd be more accurate to compare it to putting gasoline into a car whose engine is going to be removed later that day. Or going the other way, your analogy would be better compared to putting food into someone that's already dead.


It wasn't my analogy. :lol:

And my point is I don't believe it's right to deny a man any food whatsoever just because he's about to be executed. If we start doing that then we might as well go back to the dark ages when we tortured prisoners into confessing to crimes they didn't do or did things like burning them alive at the stake.



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18 Oct 2018, 5:20 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
I know that some states like Texas don't even do last meals at the prisoner's request anymore.

Texas is cruel!


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18 Oct 2018, 6:08 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
I know that some states like Texas don't even do last meals at the prisoner's request anymore.

Texas is cruel!

Not much crueler the. California



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18 Oct 2018, 10:27 pm

if executions are to be done, they should be done before dawn. if they could pump in a mix of carbon monoxide and tranquilizer into the death row cell [sealed] while the condemned is still asleep, that would likely be the most humane way. special last meal would be moot.



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18 Oct 2018, 11:36 pm

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if executions are to be done, they should be done before dawn. if they could pump in a mix of carbon monoxide and tranquilizer into the death row cell [sealed] while the condemned is still asleep, that would likely be the most humane way. special last meal would be moot.

Or they could mix cyanide into their last meal.desth by carbon monoxide is horrible and too holocaust like.



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18 Oct 2018, 11:37 pm

sly279 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
if executions are to be done, they should be done before dawn. if they could pump in a mix of carbon monoxide and tranquilizer into the death row cell [sealed] while the condemned is still asleep, that would likely be the most humane way. special last meal would be moot.

Or they could mix cyanide into their last meal.desth by carbon monoxide is horrible and too holocaust like.

that is the purpose of the tranquilizer gas before and simultaneous to the carbon monoxide. cyanide is a HORRIBLE suffocating death. :idea:



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18 Oct 2018, 11:53 pm

Execution is such a waste of life. Instead of executing criminals they should perform medical experiments on. This would provide two benefits. 1. It would provide more accurate results than performing the experiments on animals, who don't always react the same way to medications as human beings and 2. it would relieve many innocent animals of horrible suffering.


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19 Oct 2018, 1:41 am

auntblabby wrote:
sly279 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
if executions are to be done, they should be done before dawn. if they could pump in a mix of carbon monoxide and tranquilizer into the death row cell [sealed] while the condemned is still asleep, that would likely be the most humane way. special last meal would be moot.

Or they could mix cyanide into their last meal.desth by carbon monoxide is horrible and too holocaust like.

that is the purpose of the tranquilizer gas before and simultaneous to the carbon monoxide. cyanide is a HORRIBLE suffocating death. :idea:

Cyanide is nearly instantaneous.



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19 Oct 2018, 1:45 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
Execution is such a waste of life. Instead of executing criminals they should perform medical experiments on. This would provide two benefits. 1. It would provide more accurate results than performing the experiments on animals, who don't always react the same way to medications as human beings and 2. it would relieve many innocent animals of horrible suffering.

That’s inhuman treatment this illegal.