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21 Jan 2019, 7:42 am

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Another reason is Hate speech laws. No way would Western Europe have blasphemy laws if it wasn't for immigration. The other day in the UK a politician had a man arrested for calling her a Nazi even though she was calling him and other protesters far right which is essentially the same thing.


When they can't use indoctrination or rational arguments to silence dissent, full-fledged censorship seems to be the only thing they can come up with.



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21 Jan 2019, 9:27 am

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Another reason is Hate speech laws. No way would Western Europe have blasphemy laws if it wasn't for immigration. The other day in the UK a politician had a man arrested for calling her a Nazi even though she was calling him and other protesters far right which is essentially the same thing.


When they can't use indoctrination or rational arguments to silence dissent, full-fledged censorship seems to be the only thing they can come up with.


Muslims wouldn't like rational arguments and would kill people.

That Pakistani Christian woman was denied Asylum in the UK because it would upset the Muslims.



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21 Jan 2019, 9:30 am

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Muslims wouldn't like rational arguments and would kill people.


It's not Muslims who are responsible for most of the censorship.

It's our own "democratic" "leaders" who are making it impossible to express our opinions if they stray too far from a narrow range of approved opinions, not Muslim immigrants.



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21 Jan 2019, 9:33 am

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Muslims wouldn't like rational arguments and would kill people.


It's not Muslims who are responsible for most of the censorship.

It's our own "democratic" "leaders" who are making it impossible to express our opinions if they stray too far from a narrow range of approved opinions, not Muslim immigrants.


Yeah but they use Muslims as the justification. The fact that the majority of people don't know Muhammad was a slave owning warlord serial rapist who married a child and that Muslims believe him to be morally perfect just shows how protected Islam is. The BBC has done loads of negative documentaries on Scientology there might be a few thousand of them in the UK, Whilst there are millions of Muslims yet you really hear any actual criticism of the ideology in the media.



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21 Jan 2019, 9:42 am

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Yeah but they use Muslims as the justification.


And they're use a different excuse if there weren't any Muslims.

So I'm not sure what's your point.

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The fact that the majority of people don't know Muhammad was a slave owning warlord serial rapist who married a child and that Muslims believe him to be morally perfect just shows how protected Islam is.


The majority of people don't know that the Christian bible is full of genocidal massacres either.

What's your point?

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The BBC has done loads of negative documentaries on Scientology there might be a few thousand of them in the UK, Whilst there are millions of Muslims yet you really hear any actual criticism of the ideology in the media.


To quote Waking Life :

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The function of the media has never been to eliminate the evils of the world, no. Their job is to persuade us to accept those evils and get used to living with them.


You don't expect the BBC to be anything but an tool of the rule elite used to indoctrinate us, do you?



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21 Jan 2019, 9:44 am

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Is the alt-right ruining movies?
The Alt-Right is ruining everything.



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21 Jan 2019, 9:46 am

aspiesavant wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Yeah but they use Muslims as the justification.


And they're use a different excuse if there weren't any Muslims.

So I'm not sure what's your point.

Daniel89 wrote:
The fact that the majority of people don't know Muhammad was a slave owning warlord serial rapist who married a child and that Muslims believe him to be morally perfect just shows how protected Islam is.


The majority of people don't know that the Christian bible is full of genocidal massacres either.

What's your point?

Daniel89 wrote:
The BBC has done loads of negative documentaries on Scientology there might be a few thousand of them in the UK, Whilst there are millions of Muslims yet you really hear any actual criticism of the ideology in the media.


To quote Waking Life :

Waking Life wrote:
The function of the media has never been to eliminate the evils of the world, no. Their job is to persuade us to accept those evils and get used to living with them.


You don't expect the BBC to be anything but an tool of the rule elite used to indoctrinate us, do you?


They also use it to stop politically censor people it but Muslims seem to be more protected.

Most people do know the Bible is full of genocide most Christians believe the Bible was inspired by God so they pick and choose, the greatest loophole in History. Muslims believe the Quran is the perfect word of God narrated by him to his morally perfect prophet.



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21 Jan 2019, 9:48 am

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Is the alt-right ruining movies?
The Alt-Right is ruining everything.


Sounds like the alt right Jewish conspiracy theories just they are the Jews.



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21 Jan 2019, 9:53 am

Daniel89 wrote:
They also use it to stop politically censor people it but Muslims seem to be more protected.


Muslim immigrants are but one of several protected groups.

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Most people do know the Bible is full of genocide most Christians believe the Bible was inspired by God so they pick and choose, the greatest loophole in History. Muslims believe the Quran is the perfect word of God narrated by him to his morally perfect prophet.


I don't see much of a difference, really, between the atrocities in the Torah, the Christian Bible or the Qur'an, and the way "believers" justify their own cognitive dissonance when they call their religion "tolerant" or "a religion of peace".



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21 Jan 2019, 9:56 am

aspiesavant wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
They also use it to stop politically censor people it but Muslims seem to be more protected.


Muslim immigrants are but one of several protected groups.

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Most people do know the Bible is full of genocide most Christians believe the Bible was inspired by God so they pick and choose, the greatest loophole in History. Muslims believe the Quran is the perfect word of God narrated by him to his morally perfect prophet.


I don't see much of a difference, really, between the atrocities in the Torah, the Christian Bible or the Qur'an, and the way "believers" justify their own cognitive dissonance when they call their religion "tolerant" or "a religion of peace".


One is a guide to how to live.

The other is a set of instructions that are believed to be perfect.

Christianity evolved because it could, Islam cannot evolve.



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21 Jan 2019, 10:02 am

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One is a guide to how to live.

The other is a set of instructions that are believed to be perfect.

Christianity evolved because it could, Islam cannot evolve.


Among all three major Abrahamic branches, you'll find people who take their religious books very literally (including some of the more disturbing bits) and people who have a more "progressive" interpretation.

Just compare Saudi Wahhabism with Iranian Shiitism.

Just compare Haredi Judaism with reform Judaism.

Just compare Christian fundamentalist, Creationist evangelicals with post Second Vatican Council Catholics.



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21 Jan 2019, 10:05 am

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One is a guide to how to live.

The other is a set of instructions that are believed to be perfect.

Christianity evolved because it could, Islam cannot evolve.


Among all three major Abrahamic branches, you'll find people who take their religious books very literally (including some of the more disturbing bits) and people who have a more "progressive" interpretation.

Just compare Saudi Wahhabism with Iranian Shiitism.

Just compare Haredi Judaism with reform Judaism.

Just compare Christian fundamentalist, Creationist evangelicals with post Second Vatican Council Catholics.


Yes Christianity can be taken literally but Islam can only be taken literally.



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21 Jan 2019, 10:09 am

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Yes Christianity can be taken literally but Islam can only be taken literally.


Says who?



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21 Jan 2019, 10:16 am

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Yes Christianity can be taken literally but Islam can only be taken literally.


Says who?


Says Allah apparently.

https://www.whyislam.org/quran/quran-the-word-of-god/



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21 Jan 2019, 10:24 am

Daniel89 wrote:
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Yes Christianity can be taken literally but Islam can only be taken literally.


Says who?


Says Allah apparently.

https://www.whyislam.org/quran/quran-the-word-of-god/


Orthodox Jews would say the same applies to Yahweh.

Fundamentalist Christians would say the same applies to the Christian God.

Liberal Muslims would say that Allah does allow interpretation.

As I stated before : you find literal interpretations & "progressive" interpretations among believers of all three main Abrahamic branches.

You can't just single out Islam here.



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21 Jan 2019, 5:22 pm

aspiesavant wrote:
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However you need to resolve your superiority to slake that anger--you do you boo, as they say. Just remember we can all see through it clear as day.


Where have I mentioned superiority?


She's probably just projecting.

In my experience, "anti-racists" often have a superiority complex towards not just "racists" but also members of other races... for which they feel ashamed... resulting in them using political "anti-racism" to compensate for it.

And because of that they can't grasp how anyone else could reject multiculturalism or support ethnonationalism for any other reason than a superiority complex.


:lol: Looks like I touched a nerve with someone. 8)