Adam and Eve were black

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The myth of Adam and Eve is quite a lot about common ancestry of all humans.
Modern science confirms it with the Recent Out of Africa model.
But if we take it that way - our common ancestors came from Africa and people from Africa have a phenotype of dark skin and curly hair. Some then adapted to cloudy climates by losing their skin pigmentation but it happened millenia later.

So, to bring together the Bibilical metaphor with current knowledge, we should portrait Adam and Eve as Africans, shouldn't we?

Yep.....I believe in the "out of Africa" model.

It doesn't matter if they were "black." The concept of "race" didn't when Man arose from Australopithecus.

I find it impossible to believe that we were created by one man and one woman whose offspring populated the world.

I mean think about it, if that really was true it would basically mean that we are all inbred.

The story of Adam and Eve is a crock of s**t.

The Adam and Eve story is a symbolic story. Most (even very) religious people don't believe in it literally.

I'd like to believe that's true but I grew up around Southern Babtists who would beat those kinds of stories into your head and condemn you if you dared to question them.

I don't believe Adam and Eve "knew" they were black, actually.

That construct arose, perhaps, around the time of the Egyptians.

Adam and Eve were not even biblically the first people. They were the first Jews.

Dead wrong.

According to the Bible Adam and Eve were the first humans, and they were not Jews. Adam and Eve were created only a week after the earth and the whole cosmos were created. No humans existed prior according the Bible as we know it.

The first Jews were centuries later even according the Bible.

Humans interacted with Jehovah, in Genisis (Adam and Eve, and Noah etc) but they had not yet made covenant with God. That was Abraham (about 2000 years after Adam and Eve). The special covenant by the particular tribe and their god is the supposed starting point of the Jews as a people.

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Well in the Jewish religion Adam had a wife before Eve named Lilith who ran away from the Garden of Eden and became a demon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith

She's not mentioned in the Christain version of the story.

Nor in the Jewish version. Nor any religion's. That mess (interesting soap opera that it is) is in the apocrypha (the banned stories of the Bible).

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Wrong on both counts.

Unless you count God as a "people".

The Jews are descended from Judah, a son of Jacob, and a brother of Joseph. Judah was born sometime around 1570 B.C. The Biblical Adam and Eve were created many generations before Judah was born. If you believe the writings of James Ussher, the Earth was created in one week sometime around 4004 B.C., with the creation of Adam and Eve soon thereafter. Thus, Adam and Eve existed over 2400 years before the first Jew.

HOWEVER, Judaism as we know it can be also argued to have started when God gave the Commandments to Moses, sometime around 1300 B.C., thus making the Advent of Judaism over 2600 years after the creation of the Biblical Adam and Eve. This also makes Judaism only about 3300 years old.

Of course, if you throw in the fact that the first known signs of agricultural communities appeared some 10,000 to 12,000 years ago, and that Homo Sapiens first appeared some 350,000 years ago ... well, your assertion that Adam and Eve were the first Jews is just plain wrong.

QED

Wow.

It never ceases to amaze me how many so-called Biblical "experts" there are who have never actually read the Bible.

So basically her story is a prime example of how the religions that originated out of the Middle East like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam like to practice what I call "selective moralism" which means they like to hold onto the teachings that suit their personal wants and throw away anything that doesn't work for them.

Maybe not the Apocrapha . but from post Biblical Middle Ages Jewish folklore (though the story may have more ancient roots), and from the Middle Ages Talmud.

But the very article you linked to says that the word "Lilith" only appears ONCE in the Hebrew Bible (the Jewish Bible is the same thing as the Christian Old Testament).

The point is that Lilith is a kind of a heretical story that's banned from both mainstream Christianity and from mainstream Judaism.

But even if Lilith were a standard Jewish Biblical character its doesn't change my point that Adam and Eve were the first humans, but not the first Jews, and the first Jews came much later (even if you take the Bible literally).

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Pretty much.

There a tantalizing clues of things like that getting edited out. That Adam had previous wife. And that God himself had a wife named "Asherah" who got left on the cutting room floor when they decided to put the scriptures in the film can.

And if they were really the first two humans then we should all be sitting around on porches wearing overalls and playing banjos.

It's just like that story of Noah rebuilding the world after it flooded by gathering two of each animal for his big boat. I guess that means every animal is inbred too.