Why do liberals think some Trump supporters are stupid?

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04 Jun 2020, 5:06 pm

Here’s what the majority of anti-Trump voters honestly feel about Trump supporters en masse:

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 502387002/)

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hot ... npaid-work)

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem." (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-tr ... d=51956410)

That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... 1-attacks/)

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you exclaimed, "He sure knows me."
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 073405002/)

That when you heard him relating a story of an elderly guest of his country club, an 80-year old man, who fell off a stage and hit his head, to Trump replied: “‘Oh my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t—you know, he was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him. He was bleeding all over the place. And I felt terrible, because it was a beautiful white marble floor, and now it had changed color. Became very red.” You said, "That's cool!"
(https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-h ... tern-story)

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-e ... ki-n470016)

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... nt/549794/)

That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense." (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 501321001/)

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"
(https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na- ... story.html)

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"
(https://www.independent.co.uk/news/peop ... 02756.html)

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!" (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... is/567320/)

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
(https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-in ... 6332e76d57)

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!" (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2 ... 017-000603)

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!" (https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles ... t-the-ways)

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pol ... ck-of-aid/)

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!" (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics ... index.html)

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “Well, OK then.”
(https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mo ... t-n1071791)

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise. (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues ... -families/)

What you don't get, Trump supporters, is that our succumbing to frustration and shaking our heads, thinking of you as stupid, may very well be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.


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04 Jun 2020, 5:11 pm

Because he does stupid things, he has no respect for science, and he seems to have a anti-intellectual agenda overall.



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04 Jun 2020, 5:15 pm

Well...some Trump supporters are stupid; some are highly intelligent. I know some in both categories.


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04 Jun 2020, 5:24 pm

I actually don't know any Trump supporters IRL
Just trying to curry favour with the mods :lol:


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04 Jun 2020, 5:36 pm

Yeah...you have some bright people who are Trump supporters...but these folks certainly are not using their noodles :P



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04 Jun 2020, 5:50 pm

I guess when it comes to supporting Trump a person's intelligence will be trumped by their anti-social tendencies .


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04 Jun 2020, 6:29 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Yeah...you have some bright people who are Trump supporters...but these folks certainly are not using their noodles :P

I’d say it’s the people voting democrat who aren’t using their noodles.

I guess I should be surprised to see you in a trump voter basing thread bashing trump voters but I’m not :cry:



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04 Jun 2020, 6:30 pm

I’d bet a why do conservatives think some democrats are stupid wouldn’t get kept up.



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04 Jun 2020, 6:45 pm

Trump makes many blunders. Even you know that.

They’ll be arguments, certainly, if that thread you mentioned would be started. But it wouldn’t be locked, unless the personal insults started flowing.

How would you feel, Sly, if Trump decided to make himself “President for Life”?

And don’t call me a Democrat. I’m an independent. I think Biden leaves lots to be desired.



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04 Jun 2020, 7:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Because he does stupid things, he has no respect for science, and he seems to have a anti-intellectual agenda overall.


Don't forget why Trump is President.
It is because many people were fed up with the corrupt political aristocracy, on both sides.

I don't think it is a question of stupidity, overall.
It was a question of limited options and choosing the least of the two "evils", in many people's minds.


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04 Jun 2020, 7:11 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
Well...some Trump supporters are stupid; some are highly intelligent. I know some in both categories.


And, obviously, that applies to the other side of politics, also. :wink:

firemonkey wrote:
I guess when it comes to supporting Trump a person's intelligence will be trumped by their anti-social tendencies .


I think it is more a case of self-interest. :wink:


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04 Jun 2020, 7:17 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Trump makes many blunders. Even you know that.

They’ll be arguments, certainly, if that thread you mentioned would be started. But it wouldn’t be locked, unless the personal insults started flowing.

How would you feel, Sly, if Trump decided to make himself “President for Life”?

And don’t call me a Democrat. I’m an independent. I think Biden leaves lots to be desired.


I don't think Trump is a good President.
I don't think Biden would be either.

And yes, I see you as being pretty even-handed in the political debate. 8)


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04 Jun 2020, 7:20 pm

I wonder how the coal miners of West Virginia, extreme Trump supporters, are doing these days....

It’s false to paint Trump as some exemplar of morality like some of these (usually ex) coal miners do.



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04 Jun 2020, 7:21 pm

Imagine if we had a Franklin Roosevelt running in 2020?



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04 Jun 2020, 7:35 pm

Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Trump makes many blunders. Even you know that.

They’ll be arguments, certainly, if that thread you mentioned would be started. But it wouldn’t be locked, unless the personal insults started flowing.

How would you feel, Sly, if Trump decided to make himself “President for Life”?

And don’t call me a Democrat. I’m an independent. I think Biden leaves lots to be desired.


I don't think Trump is a good President.
I don't think Biden would be either.

And yes, I see you as being pretty even-handed in the political debate. 8)
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How serious is the 'non compos mentis' issue re Biden ?


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04 Jun 2020, 7:42 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Imagine if we had a Franklin Roosevelt running in 2020?


He dropped out and endorsed the second worst Democratic candidate in history. :(

As for the question in the title, because many of them are and others are so angry they're irrational even if they're not actually stupid. People get frustrated when dealing with people who consistently ignore reality to defend the indefensible and people get worried when they see so many of them discussing using violence against their opponents. Trump's base are the reason why ANTIFA exists.


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