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Are the red pill / blue pill ideologies only love and dating thing?
How do you define them?

'Red pill' ideology has naff all to do with love and dating. It's actually it's antithesis; all about chauvinistic power and control. I would assume that it's adherents would gravitate towards authoritarian and tribal political ideologies that purport to assuage their sense of alienation, inadequacy, and impotence by reinforcing their imaginary sense of racial, religious, and ethnic superiority in similar ways as their misogyny, but I haven't seen anything written on the subject.

Is that the definition?

From a semi-related thread; "When YouTube Red-Pills the Love of Your Life."

This thread actually made me recheck which pill was which in the original Matrix movie XD

But everyone talks there like the terms didn't need explaining and your quote is about political correlations, not definitions.

At first glance, the definition of the “red pill” ideology doesn’t seem to reflect a totally implausible mindset.

It’s a concession that women are a certain “way”, and that men must adapt to that “way.” I find that a form of cowardice...of giving up.

The definition does no justice to how it actually manifests.

People who “take the red pill” tend to go way beyond the original definition in their absurdity.

This is similar to the fact that the definition of "incel" is "involuntarily celibate"---yet "incels" have taken this way beyond the original definition.

So a mere definition does not do justice to either "the red pill" or "incels."

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What is 'the red pill'?

Now that we are on the subject...

What DOES it mean? In ANY context? Dating or anything else?

I knew enuff to know that this "take the red pill" thing is a reference to the Matrix movie, which I never saw.

Finnally watched the Matrix recently...or watched it up to the point where the pills are offered to the hero.

Blue equals go back to normal life with your normal beliefs.

Red equals continue down the rabbit hole of this movie and see just how crazy "reality" (as portrayed by the movie) is.

Out of the context of the movie I am not sure what either pill color is supposed to mean.

No.
The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:

Red Pill: Knowledge, freedom, and the brutal truths of reality.
Blue Pill: Security, happiness, and the blissful ignorance of illusion.

In "The Matrix", Neo (Keanu Reeves) hears rumors of the Matrix and a mysterious man named Morpheus. Neo spends his nights at his home computer trying to discover the secret of the Matrix and what the Matrix is. Eventually, another hacker, Trinity (Carrie-Anne Moss), introduces Neo to Morpheus.

Morpheus (Laurence Fishburne) explains to Neo that the Matrix is an illusory world created to prevent humans from discovering that they are slaves to an external influence. Holding out a capsule on each of his palms, he describes the choice facing Neo:

As narrated, the blue pill will allow the subject to remain in the fabricated reality of the Matrix; the red serves as a "location device" to locate the subject's body in the real world and to prepare him or her to be "unplugged" from the Matrix. Once one chooses the red or blue pill, the choice is irrevocable.

Why the Radical Incels chose this as their meme is beyond my understanding, since their "Red Pill" beliefs are either wild exaggerations or outright lies.

I am just as confused as you are.
I mean, what claims to be "the red pill" seems very bluepill Matrix-wise, in terms of choosing to live in some illusion.
Is there a blue-pill movement on the opposite side?

Supposedly, the "blue pill" means that you still believe in illusions, like "romance."

The "red pill" implies that one has to "see reality," and "know" that, say, you're going to have difficulty finding love if you're Aspie, nerdy, and overweight.

Wait, those don't contradict.
A fact of difficulty finding a partner does not mean a romance is an illusion, does it?

It is frequently felt, by those who have difficulty finding love, that "romance is an illusion." I find that to be a defensive posture, usually.

Once somebody "finds love" after a long time seeking it, their notions about "romance" frequently changes. The "red pill" mentality fades to dust.

You may be right... I had a period of belief that romance is an illusion, at least for me – after a guy who claimed to love me abused and discarded me.
And yes, it changed with better expiriences.

And if that isn't confusing enough the term "blue pill" has another meaning. Viagra is blue. And Viagra, you know, is ..you know...related to the topic of "romance" as well in a certain way.

I feel like you reacted to what that guy did to you like many people would.

I'm glad you were able to see beyond that one guy, and continue to have faith that happiness is attainable.