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19 Feb 2019, 12:51 pm

Bernie Sanders has thrown his hat in the ring for 2020.



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19 Feb 2019, 12:54 pm

Didn't the Talking Heads do that song?



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19 Feb 2019, 12:59 pm

Bernie had his moment, but then fell back in line with corporate Dems. I have lost all respect for him. This is no time for half measures. He should have left the party, and continued the crusade.


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19 Feb 2019, 1:00 pm

Magna wrote:
Bernie Sanders has thrown his hat in the ring for 2020.
In Spain, they throw the bull into the ring.



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19 Feb 2019, 1:10 pm

Sanders is a fraud.


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19 Feb 2019, 1:24 pm

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Bernie had his moment, but then fell back in line with corporate Dems. I have lost all respect for him. This is no time for half measures. He should have left the party, and continued the crusade.


It's certainly worth pondering if Bernie has "had his moment". If AOC was old enough to run for president, I would agree 100% that Bernie would be obsolete as I think many of Bernie's younger supporters would discard him for someone they would feel, based on age, etc to be more of a spokesperson for them.

I think leading up to the DFL primaries of 2016 Bernie was viewed by many younger Bernie supporters as a cool grandpa type who they thought had radically refreshing ideas. With the wave of younger very progressive DFL politicians with similar ideas, Bernie isn't as appealing.



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19 Feb 2019, 1:52 pm

Bernie Sanders is the Barry Goldwater of the 21st century.



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19 Feb 2019, 6:29 pm

Magna wrote:
VegetableMan wrote:
Bernie had his moment, but then fell back in line with corporate Dems. I have lost all respect for him. This is no time for half measures. He should have left the party, and continued the crusade.


It's certainly worth pondering if Bernie has "had his moment". If AOC was old enough to run for president, I would agree 100% that Bernie would be obsolete as I think many of Bernie's younger supporters would discard him for someone they would feel, based on age, etc to be more of a spokesperson for them.

I think leading up to the DFL primaries of 2016 Bernie was viewed by many younger Bernie supporters as a cool grandpa type who they thought had radically refreshing ideas. With the wave of younger very progressive DFL politicians with similar ideas, Bernie isn't as appealing.

Then he threw every thing they bribed in into the trash and supported Hillary who stands against it all.
It’s been life if trump lost and then supported ted cruz



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19 Feb 2019, 8:17 pm

I don't believe he has a chance.

He has lots of appeal---but his economic policies are impractical, and don't stand up to scrutiny.



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19 Feb 2019, 8:39 pm

Fnord wrote:
Magna wrote:
Bernie Sanders has thrown his hat in the ring for 2020.
In Spain, they throw the bull into the ring.
In America, both mean the same thing.

:lol:



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19 Feb 2019, 9:22 pm

Bernie is going to try to appeal to the altruism in Americans by openly seeking to raise taxes.

This will not work.



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20 Feb 2019, 10:37 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Didn't the Talking Heads do that song?

They did 'Burning Down the House'. Similar concept.


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20 Feb 2019, 11:17 pm

Where do people like Sanders, AOC, Warren, et al, stand on things like industrial development, investing in economically low-performing regions, etc.?


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21 Feb 2019, 12:22 am

While I'm not going to count Bernie out yet, I think his age, and the fact that he had previously ran but failed, will be held against him.


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21 Feb 2019, 2:17 am

I liked him in 2016 and I still like him. Hopefully we will recover the rust belt which is something Trump promised to do by bringing jobs back during his 2016 campaign run for president.



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21 Feb 2019, 1:38 pm

Bernie was ok with me (though most his economic goals are impossible) until he felt the need to out progressive Hillary by going super anti gun.