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20 Mar 2019, 7:58 am

Turkish president threatens Australians

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Tayyip Erdogan has been using footage of the mass shootings in campaign rallies ahead of next week’s Turkish election.

The hardline Muslim president has now attacked the ANZACs and their ancestors.

According to the ABC, Erdogan is warning those with anti-Muslim views will return home in coffins like their grandfathers did after Gallipoli.

“Your grandparents came here… and they returned in caskets.

Have no doubt we will send you back like your grandfathers.” https://www.2gb.com/turkish-president-t ... -responds/



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20 Mar 2019, 8:02 am

Erdogan is a sick extremist. I can't believe that the EU is considering admitting this fundamentalist demagogue into its ranks. Erdogan has totally destroyed the progressive, secular liberal democracy that Atatürk created.



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20 Mar 2019, 8:06 am

Prometheus18 wrote:
Erdogan is a sick extremist. I can't believe that the EU is considering admitting this fundamentalist demagogue into its ranks. Erdogan has totally destroyed the progressive, secular liberal democracy that Atatürk created.


Exploiting a tragedy for political gain...
What is sick and extremist in that? :mrgreen:



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20 Mar 2019, 8:14 am

Pepe wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Erdogan is a sick extremist. I can't believe that the EU is considering admitting this fundamentalist demagogue into its ranks. Erdogan has totally destroyed the progressive, secular liberal democracy that Atatürk created.


Exploiting a tragedy for political gain...
What is sick and extremist in that? :mrgreen:

I know right? Name one politician in the history of the world who has never done that. :lol:



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20 Mar 2019, 5:07 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Prometheus18 wrote:
Erdogan is a sick extremist. I can't believe that the EU is considering admitting this fundamentalist demagogue into its ranks. Erdogan has totally destroyed the progressive, secular liberal democracy that Atatürk created.


Exploiting a tragedy for political gain...
What is sick and extremist in that? :mrgreen:

I know right? Name one politician in the history of the world who has never done that. :lol:


The vacuum of space is going to get very crowded up there if we get our way and implement a worldwide no BS policy... :mrgreen:
Let the Martians deal with the crap...
This policy has already been implemented elsewhere as described in The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy... 8)



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20 Mar 2019, 5:11 pm

We have to watch this guy.

This guy has elements of Muslim extremism/Jihadism in him.



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20 Mar 2019, 5:26 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
We have to watch this guy.

This guy has elements of Muslim extremism/Jihadism in him.


Speculation has been made questioning whether or not the attempted "coup" was actually a false flag event...
I can see this man being capable of such a thing...

If true:
Adolf Hitler would be proud...
But Mustafa Kemal Atatürk would be turning in his grave... 8O



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20 Mar 2019, 7:01 pm

Ataturk was no "great shakes," either. He was an autocrat. He tried to impose modernity upon the Turkish populace. He wasn't too good to his enemies.

He had his good and bad points, in my opinion.



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20 Mar 2019, 7:06 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Ataturk was no "great shakes," either. He was an autocrat. He tried to impose modernity upon the Turkish populace. He wasn't too good to his enemies.

He had his good and bad points, in my opinion.



Still way better than Kenan Evren. And of course, better than Erdogan.


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20 Mar 2019, 7:10 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Ataturk was no "great shakes," either. He was an autocrat. He tried to impose modernity upon the Turkish populace. He wasn't too good to his enemies.

He had his good and bad points, in my opinion.


I see the "father" of a secular Turkey...
That is good enough for me... :wink:



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20 Mar 2019, 7:29 pm

He was sort of like Peter the Great in Russia.

A man who wanted to modernize his country.

But I am one who also believes in maintaining some "old-fashioned" traditions (not the ones that oppress people, though).



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21 Mar 2019, 8:02 am

Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
We have to watch this guy.

This guy has elements of Muslim extremism/Jihadism in him.


Speculation has been made questioning whether or not the attempted "coup" was actually a false flag event...
I can see this man being capable of such a thing...

If true:
Adolf Hitler would be proud...
But Mustafa Kemal Atatürk would be turning in his grave... 8O


I consider it a FACT that Erdogan orchestrated the "attempted coup" himself.
It is obvious, given the fact that Erdogan gained so much political power from this situation.

Like it is also a FACT that Hitler was responsible for setting fire to the Reichstag.

Its not conspiracy theory. It is a fact.



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21 Mar 2019, 8:35 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
We have to watch this guy.

This guy has elements of Muslim extremism/Jihadism in him.


Speculation has been made questioning whether or not the attempted "coup" was actually a false flag event...
I can see this man being capable of such a thing...

If true:
Adolf Hitler would be proud...
But Mustafa Kemal Atatürk would be turning in his grave... 8O


I consider it a FACT that Erdogan orchestrated the "attempted coup" himself.
It is obvious, given the fact that Erdogan gained so much political power from this situation.

Like it is also a FACT that Hitler was responsible for setting fire to the Reichstag.

Its not conspiracy theory. It is a fact.


It is a "fact" if there is verifiable evidence...
I haven't seen any to date...
Please supply some if you have it...

But there comes a point where circumstantial evidence is so great that speculation is beyond reasonable doubt...
Russia's poisoning of Skripal is an example...

Erdogan had the motive and the means of staging a false flag event, as did Hitler when Hitler concocted the Polish attack on the German radio station and others...

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The Gleiwitz incident (German: Überfall auf den Sender Gleiwitz; Polish: Prowokacja gliwicka) was a covert Nazi German attack on the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz on the night of 31 August 1939 (today Gliwice, Poland). The attack is widely regarded as a false flag operation, staged with some two dozen similar German incidents on the eve of the invasion of Poland leading up to World War II in Europe.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident


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Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—such as a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, direct evidence supports the truth of an assertion directly—i.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference. https://www.google.com/search?q=circums ... e&ie=UTF-8


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Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. The standard that must be met by the prosecution's evidence in a criminal prosecution: that no other logical explanation can be derived from the facts except that the defendant committed the crime, thereby overcoming the presumption that a person is innocent until proven guilty. https://legal-dictionary.thefreediction ... able+doubt