I'd like to propose a toast

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I'm pouring a bit of the bubbly, right now, and raising my glass. Here's to everyone who didn't buy into the Russia collusion conspiracy theory. *Clink*

I'll drink to that

I want to propose a toast of my own. Here's to God having no mercy because he is God!

Cheers

Sure, i'll use that as a reason to drink a little. I rarely drink alcohol, it's been a while. All I have is liquor, so I will be having a glass of crown royal and apple juice, lol. I don't have anything better to mix it with. This will be interesting. It actually doesn't taste that bad

Though you know, this will not be the end of the Russia collusion theory, it will not die until Trump has been out of office for a year or maybe a few. I know you don't particularly like Trump but at least you don't buy into the nonsense the left has been strongly pushing since he got into office.

I hear he may win in 2020, claims that he still has a lot of support, the democrats aren't helping themselves, they are getting more crazy for the most part. Not all of them but the ones who are looking like they will have the best chance of making it to the end are all insane, so I constantly hear. The best one in my eyes doesn't seem to be doing so hot in support, Tulsi Gabbard. The democrats seem to be screwing their entire party up and putting the worse choices in the spotlight. Bernie has gone off the deep end also, not that I really ever liked him.

I don't understand the people claiming our country will collapse if Trump wins again, the economy is still on the upswing, they seem to be paying that no attention and acting as if the country is collapsing??

Royal Crown and apple juice doesn't sound too bad, actually.

I don't want to see see another four years of Trump, but it won't be the end of the world, no. Tulsi Gabbard is the only candidate in the field of Dem I would vote for. However, she will be put down by the corporate Democrats. She has no chance.

I know you don't want to see more of Trump. I don't personally see it as a bad thing though I will admit, I have no idea of what's really even going on for the most part. I just know little things here and there. I really want something to happen to ensure we have strong border security. Maybe the wall isn't the best idea, but the strongest voices in the democratic party are saying nonsense things like we need no border security and that it is wrong to deport those who cross illegally or over stay illegally. That is such a bad idea for tons of reasons, I wish to see our border laws being taken serious. And the oddest thing of all is up until Trump was elected, even democrats supported border security. That's why I say, democrats for the most part are going insane, saying things that make no sense at all.

By the way, the crown and apple juice is actually pretty good, it seems to go together better than with coke

Just out of curiosity, what are some of the bigger reasons you dislike Trump?

So you all seriously believe money doesn't corrupt politics?

Oof.

Eh? We're talking about the collusion hoax. Pretty much every politician is corrupted. The establishment only started caring because their puppet Clinton lost.

The collusion is not a hoax at all, people just decided they didn't care.

Be honest with yourselves.

He's not delivering on his campaign promise to end the U.S. foreign interventionist policy, is the big one for me. I don't like what is going on along the Mexican border, and I'm against the wall. However, his predecessor wasn't any better -- same s**t, different toilet.

Trump is not much different than the last few presidents. The only thing he did was strip away the respectable face of the presidency.

It's the biggest hoax in US history. The case is over with not one American being indicted for "collusion". See this is the trouble when you've invested yourself too much in the hoax, there's no going back.

Collusion isn't strictly speaking a crime anyway, the problem is ignoring our sovereignty to attract more money.

So are you also saying you hope the next liberal president gets the same impunity?

I don't see where anyone's going with either side of this debate anymore. It seems pretty reckless to elect these guys based on empty campaign promises anyway, which is what we've been doing since long before Trump was in office. Why are you celebrating the supposed lesser of two evils when he lies to you about "embiggening" the police/nanny state?

My general policy is it is unwise to leap to conclusions. During the Mueller investigation my standing line was "let's wait for the results of the investigation. I hope to see the Mueller report in full. Mueller before this investigation had a stellar reputation, and by objective accounts has done an excellent and professional job investigating this matter. The lack of leaks coming from his office alone is worthy of applause.

I hated that republicans were calling it a witch hunt, and saying it was time to wrap up. Mueller uncovered a lot of wrongdoing as evidenced by his numerous indictments and convictions. If his report finds no wrongdoing on the part of Donald Trump, democrats should accept it.

I suspect our politicians being politicians are all going to flip their tunes. Democrats will start calling the Mueller report a "coverup." Republicans will start calling Mueller a "very fine investigator."

"Collusion isn't strictly speaking a crime anyway, the problem is ignoring our sovereignty to attract more money."

And here comes the backpeddling. The whole sham was set up because of "collusion". The people pushing the hoax in the media are now pretending it was never about collusion. Sorry this isn't a George Orwell novel, history cannot be wiped away.

If anything Trump has done more than anything to protect sovereignty than any other President for a long time. Clinton set up NAFTA. Bush invaded Iraq on a pack of lies and set off a hornet's nest. Obama started a load more wars on lies. Spending trillions on horrible wars has had great damage on the US so where's the investigations? Let's be realistic.