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22 Mar 2019, 8:42 am

Right-Wing Extremism is On the Rise

The recent attack by a Right-Wing Terrorist on two mosques in New Zealand, which left 52 dead, was the worst mass-shooting in the country's history.

The bombs the police found and defused in the killer's car could have made it even more deadly.

While terrorism had actually dropped globally from 17,000 incidents in 2014 to about 11,000 in 2017, in many countries Right-Wing Terrorism was rising. In the U.S. alone, the number of incidents was up sharply, from 8 in 2016 to 36 in 2017 -- a 450% increase in Global Terrorist acts.

But while the threat of Right-Wing Hate Groups is growing, it isn't new. In America alone, Right-Wing Killers were responsible for three our of four extremist-related murders over the past decade.

Out of 427 Total Deaths

Right-Wing Extremists caused 313 (73.3%).
Islamist Extremists caused 104 (23.4%).
Left-Wing Extremists caused 10 (3.2%).

Right-Wing Extremism is a Cult of Violence, one that's more than three times as much of a threat as Islamist Extremism. When these two Conservative Extremist Groups are considered together, they account for 97.7 percent of all the murders committed by Extremist Groups in America.

So, the Threat to America is not Left-Wing Liberalism, nor even Socialism. It is the ideology that teaches children that it's okay to murder anyone you don't like as long as you can justify your actions in term of Right-Wing Extremism.

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• Anti-Defamation League
• Global Terrorism Database
• Southern Poverty Law Center
• The Nib (Rachel Dukes)
• Washington Post



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22 Mar 2019, 9:39 am

The left has lit the fire under the right though. Cutting down their options by deplatforming, silencing and unpersoning them. Getting people fired from their jobs. Smearing and attacking them verbally and physically. Getting people taken off Patreon and PayPal. The violence is escalating because of the left putting people in a corner, pressing down on them. If you leave someone with no option other than violence, don't be surprised when they get violent.



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22 Mar 2019, 9:40 am

This Right-Wing stuff has been around since way before "political correctness."



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22 Mar 2019, 9:55 am

I've mentioned before about the forum with the SJW types I was on, on a few rare occasions we would end up on the same side of an argument. I would try to converse with the person on the other side but every single time it was impossible because these insufferable people would be in attack mode and I would just get lost in the dogpile or couldn't talk properly with the other person because they'd been made defensive by the SJWs.



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22 Mar 2019, 10:18 am

I would say extremists on both sides are an equal problem. I think is a bit unfair, republican doesn't mean racists, even an extreme republican does not mean they are racist, white supremacists may claim to vote republican, that does not mean their views of racism are republican views. (racism is not a republican view)

Now, we have a very small group of white supremacists which claim to vote republican, we have a much larger group, millions upon millions of people marching in the streets condemning people for being white and attacking people specifically for voting republican, this does include physical violence on a massive scale. True they have not killed anyone, yet, but I will add that some of them got caught planting bombs at a police station. They crack people over the head with sticks, damage property and call anyone, whether white or a minority, Nazi's and fascists and that they don't want them here. They spit on them, they put bull horns up to their ear, they beat and damage their cars, they may pull them out of there cars and beat them down, they may gang up on people in alleys and beat the s**t out of them, what's the crime? Them 'thinking' you are a republican, you don't even actually have to be a republican. They yell racist slurs, even at minorities for being republican, This group is in the millions, white white supremacists are in the thousands. I'm having a hard time understanding how one could think white supremacists are a bigger threat than the opposing side, which contain some supremacists and a lot of racists. True, the white supremacists take it much further with violence, which is indeed horrific, but the other side is just as guilty for what they do and they 'fact' that they directly cause the white supremacists numbers to grow.

If you want the monster to die, don't feed the monster. Don't pretend that feeding the monster, allowing it to grow, is less damaging than the monster itself.



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22 Mar 2019, 10:22 am

I'm going to be frank:

There aren't many people going around condemning people for being "white."

Any time somebody brings up something like "white privilege," I will argue with that person till Kingdom Come.

There is some justification for some SJW stuff----but, mostly, it is just irritating hearing about "microaggressions" and such.



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22 Mar 2019, 10:26 am

Crimadella wrote:
I would say extremists on both sides are an equal problem.
The statistic prove otherwise.
Crimadella wrote:
I think is a bit unfair, republican doesn't mean racists, even an extreme republican does not mean they are racist, white supremacists may claim to vote republican, that does not mean their views of racism are republican views.
I said nothing about "Republicans" or "White Supremacists", only "Right-Wing" extremists and terrorists. They don't have to be Republicans or white.



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22 Mar 2019, 10:38 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I'm going to be frank:

There aren't many people going around condemning people for being "white."


You are not correct on that. The problem is I could show you countless videos and you would insist they are isolated incidents.

If a white man were to tell a minority that the color of their skin makes them a racist person, a devil, their opinion doesn't count because of their race, yell racist slurs at them, or beat them down because of there race, what would you call that white person? The fact is, today, this type of behavior is aimed at white people and it sure does seem popular, as you can watch many protests and marches where their are plenty of people doing just that.

They have even had 'human walls' at college campuses blocking 'white people' from getting to their class, if it where a wall of white people blocking minorities from getting to class, what would you call those white people?

The problem allowing this to grow is people claiming racism isn't racism, simply bercause the racism is aimed at white people.



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22 Mar 2019, 10:45 am

Fnord wrote:
Crimadella wrote:
I would say extremists on both sides are an equal problem.
The statistic prove otherwise.
Crimadella wrote:
I think is a bit unfair, republican doesn't mean racists, even an extreme republican does not mean they are racist, white supremacists may claim to vote republican, that does not mean their views of racism are republican views.
I said nothing about "Republicans" or "White Supremacists", only "Right-Wing" extremists and terrorists. They don't have to be Republicans or white.



I thought right wing directly insists that the person would be republican/conservative? Are their right-wing democrats or something?

The statistic doesn't mention cause as to why this would be a growing problem, I would say that is an important detail. You could give a statistic showing millions of people are dying, it's pretty pointless to not attempt to answer why they are dying.



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22 Mar 2019, 11:12 am

Anyway, I really hate these kind of conversations, not many people here are willing to accept what is going on, racism within left wing radicals is growing at alarming rates and most people don't seem to think that is a problem or has any impact at all on spreading racism and causing tension between races. The media will constantly show you police beating minorities or hate crimes against minorities, rarely do they show when it happens to white people and it seems very obvious why they are doing that. The left needs their talking points of white and the right is all bad people, without racism to talk about, the majority of radical left wing politics are extremely alarming, attacking free speech, identity politics, discrimination in the form of enforced diversity and the list goes on, I'll just sit this one out.



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22 Mar 2019, 11:13 am

I don't mean to be callous. But 427 deaths is hardly an existential crisis of a country. Now that's 427 people who did not have to die, but I think there is a danger to overreacting.

For example on September 11th 2001, a group of Islamic terrorists launched an attack that killed 2,996 people. In response the US launched an ill-advised war that as of 2011 was estimated to result in 400,000 deaths, and has shown very little if any tangible results in stemming the spread of Islamic terrorism. There was a proper response to the september 11th attacks. Invading Iraq and deposing Saddam Hussein was not that.

There is a proper response to right wing extremism. When people are told to combat "right-wing extremism," most of them don't know a right-wing extremist and instead combat the closest center right or even far right person. Undoubtedly this actually plays into the extremist hands as said people become ostracized and more likely to adopt extreme views.


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22 Mar 2019, 11:34 am

The KKK, the Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, black supremacists,?the Christian Identity Church, the Nation of Islam: examples of right-wing extremists.

Republicans like McCain are not.



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22 Mar 2019, 11:45 am

I don’t believe in “enforced diversity”—but I believe in diversity.

Why can’t a black person hang with a white person?



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22 Mar 2019, 11:46 am

Crimadella wrote:
Anyway, I really hate these kind of conversations, not many people here are willing to accept what is going on, racism within left wing radicals is growing at alarming rates and most people don't seem to think that is a problem or has any impact at all on spreading racism and causing tension between races. The media will constantly show you police beating minorities or hate crimes against minorities, rarely do they show when it happens to white people and it seems very obvious why they are doing that. The left needs their talking points of white and the right is all bad people, without racism to talk about, the majority of radical left wing politics are extremely alarming, attacking free speech, identity politics, discrimination in the form of enforced diversity and the list goes on, I'll just sit this one out.


Because they promote it as if it's religious doctrine. You can't use reason with them.

It's shocking in a way that people criticize NTs for being hive-minded but in these type of conversations they aren't really dissimilar.



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22 Mar 2019, 11:51 am

I work at a college. They wouldn’t allow “zones” where white people are not admitted.

Anyway, what is “white culture,” anyway? The white “race” (like other “races,” are composed of ethnic groups who might oppose each other.

Examples: Russians and Ukrainians. Both white. Both Slavic. They hate each other.

Just like people in Africa consider black Americans to be separate from themselves. They are considered Americans who happen to be dark-skinned.



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22 Mar 2019, 12:10 pm

Drake wrote:
The left has lit the fire under the right though. Cutting down their options by deplatforming, silencing and unpersoning them. Getting people fired from their jobs. Smearing and attacking them verbally and physically. Getting people taken off Patreon and PayPal. The violence is escalating because of the left putting people in a corner, pressing down on them. If you leave someone with no option other than violence, don't be surprised when they get violent.


Do you realize you just said this on the internet? There are no corners on the internet. They have more "options" than 99% of people who ever lived & they CHOOSE violence.


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