Corrupt elections are not fake news.

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Here's an article from a well-respected tech publication on Russian election hacking.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/dhs-fbi-say-election-systems-in-50-states-were-targeted-in-2016/

If you aren't familiar with software security, please don't let my preface scare you off, however I think it should be fairly obvious who's discussing these issues analytically & who's making diversionary excuses for Trump.

Corrupt elections are not new news, either.

It's like Trump managed to convince 124 million people that all elections are final & winners should never be questioned.

This guy is more evasive than ME & I've been an autistic hacker for almost 2 decades. Real recognize real; real also recognizes FAKE.

Trump's ascendance to power is the outcome of decades of corruption of the U.S political system. It's the outcome of not having a major political party that opposes neoliberalism. It's the outcome of the DNC rigging their primaries, and elevating Trump in the liberal MSM.

Yeah, Russia is to blame for Trump. That'll work! Let's keep focusing on that.

Man where did I say I was ascribing blame?! No one isn't to blame for letting this happen. American infighting is the entire world's fault, how could it not be?

The way I see it, we can all either let a grandiose casino magnate pretend he's the only person qualified to run the country or we can all run our own dumb country.

Funny how the right, which was once so fanatically Anti-Russian, are now calling the Russians are friends, and are even trusting them more than American intelligence and law enforcement. The Russians have truly influenced America in a way no one would have ever believed.

I think that's because our fanatical obsession with private enterprise ultimately isn't so different from the brutally utilitarian industrial nature of any other large country.

I think you're right.

The left criticized the right for their anti-Russian rhetoric; now they have adopted it. Is that not equally funny? Blaming Russia is politically advantageous for the left, currently -- hypocrisy be damned!

We are not talking about blame, we are talking about democracy & technology. Your choice to ignore the issue under the pretense that we're on a McCarthyist crusade is ignorant because this isn't about communism in the slightest.

Again, it's totally apparent when you're stuck in the loop of deny/counteraccuse. Unless you're taking the whole situation into account, my thread's going off topic. When someone buys an election through Facebook & Twitter, people who actually care what their vote does take offense.

If I blame anyone, that would be the Americans who are willing to accept the possibility of a fake election just to temporarily get what they want.

Trump won because a few Russian people bought Facebook ads.

That's all it takes to topple Democrats.

Trump won because most Americans are too stupid to tell the difference between personality and policy.

Actually, I believe I am taking the whole situation into account. Why are we still only focusing on alleged Russian interference when we have had a corrupt, rigged election system for most of my lifetime. I use the term "McCarthyism" to put it into historical context. My last comment was merely to point out the absurdity of finding it 'funny" that the right has now become what the left used to be -- they've switched roles.

I still see no real evidence that Russia had any major role in influencing our election.

Look, if you want to have a conversation in an echo chamber, just say so. I'll be happy to leave you to it.

Seeing as that's what you were already doing, I rest my case. International espionage is not such a great reality show when it's a waste of your tax dollars. Trump is in office because Putin invested in making Americans hate each other. Russia's major role in our election was ensuring that nobody here really cared about the outcome.

I see no role reversal, partisanship has entirely devolved. If you think it's cool to mock disabilities, waste money erasing environmental protections, spend billions on razor wire for Mexico to steal, order catering from McDonald's, run border detention centers with no government oversight or pretend to be a "job creator" after firing half your staff, be my guest.

Casinos & lies are not required for this economy to support my income. Americans create our own damn jobs, please stop the idol worship & show respect for people who actually work.

You're offensively defending the guy who drives the fastest golf cart he can, just to move his ball before anyone can see. THAT'S WHAT HE DOES INSTEAD OF PRESIDENTIAL WORK.

What you're basically telling is that democracy was already broken so why fix it?

I don't care if you're used to this BS, inquiring minds want it to stop. If you're not questioning Trump you're refusing to learn about our democratic process. Need I remind you that the Republican party is a democratic entity? You're only making it easier for the other side to steal elections just the same way.