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31 May 2019, 7:43 pm

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The Bible condemns witchcraft and sorcery.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-witchcraft.html

Staunch Christians who take the Bible literally are going to think that magic is possible but that it comes from Satan.

My family believed in all of this sort of stuff, and I wasn’t allowed to read books with magic in them (like Harry Potter) because it could summon demons. Oy vey!

I have a whole collection of books and video games featuring magic now and Satan hasn’t paid me any visits yet. It’s a shame because he sounds like lots of fun. :P


Fundi christians are funny (like my parents). Satan is a personification of the metaphor of temptation in some jewish mystical sects like the Essenes who were the sect that founded christianity. There was no concept of the devil in the old testament or in mainstream judaism. It's caricature in modern christianity is based on some pre-christian Roman dieties to scare new believers not give in to the temptation to return to the "old gods".



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31 May 2019, 7:48 pm

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Twilightprincess wrote:
The Bible condemns witchcraft and sorcery.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-witchcraft.html

Staunch Christians who take the Bible literally are going to think that magic is possible but that it comes from Satan.

My family believed in all of this sort of stuff, and I wasn’t allowed to read books with magic in them (like Harry Potter) because it could summon demons. Oy vey!

I have a whole collection of books and video games featuring magic now and Satan hasn’t paid me any visits yet. It’s a shame because he sounds like lots of fun. :P


Fundi christians are funny (like my parents). Satan is a personification of the metaphor of temptation in some jewish mystical sects like the Essenes who were the sect that founded christianity. There was no concept of the devil in the old testament or in mainstream judaism. It's caricature in modern christianity is based on some pre-christian Roman dieties to scare new believers not give in to the temptation to return to the "old gods".


It’s true that he isn’t in the OT. Christians just try to make the collection of stories a cohesive message even though it’s very far from that.



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31 May 2019, 9:10 pm

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31 May 2019, 9:23 pm

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31 May 2019, 11:13 pm

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It’s true that he isn’t in the OT. Christians just try to make the collection of stories a cohesive message even though it’s very far from that.


Christianity is a vehicle for mind control (in this it's not unique as judaism and islam are probably worse)

I don't dispute there was a Jesus Christ but the reality was that he was an Essene and his apocalyptic preaching was aimed at jews (stock standard for the essene sect). If there was a second coming he would be either amused or disappointed that his followers took the messianic message to the "dim witted goyim" and made no impact at all on judaism. In that respect he failed.



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31 May 2019, 11:58 pm

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Exorcising keeps you fit :twisted:


Get me Satan's personal fitness trainer on the line,
I've got me some demons to exorcise.


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01 Jun 2019, 12:08 am

Just a thought, but when I'm dying I don't want a cynical atheist hanging around me reminding me that when we all die there is no afterlife waiting for us and that we become nothing but a big hunk of decaying rotten meat that worms and maggots feed off of. I think I would drag an as*hole like that into death with me. :skull:


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01 Jun 2019, 12:15 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Just a thought, but when I'm dying I don't want a cynical atheist hanging around me reminding me that when we all die there is no afterlife waiting for us and that we become nothing but a big hunk of decaying rotten meat that worms and maggots feed off of. I think I would drag an as*hole like that into death with me. :skull:


We won't need to remind you, clearly you already know it's true. Deal with it.


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01 Jun 2019, 12:19 am

Lol, 21st century tribal knowledge. Gotta love it.

And if what we know with absolute certainty to be true turns out not to be true.... well... have fun with that.


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01 Jun 2019, 2:55 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Just a thought, but when I'm dying I don't want a cynical atheist hanging around me reminding me that when we all die there is no afterlife waiting for us and that we become nothing but a big hunk of decaying rotten meat that worms and maggots feed off of. I think I would drag an as*hole like that into death with me. :skull:


I think the Buddha once said that regardless of what you believe about death you should just accept your fate whatever happens will be out of your control (I think he was counselling an anxious acolyte who was obsessed about what he would be born as in his next life)



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01 Jun 2019, 6:16 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Just a thought, but when I'm dying I don't want a cynical atheist hanging around me reminding me that when we all die there is no afterlife waiting for us and that we become nothing but a big hunk of decaying rotten meat that worms and maggots feed off of. I think I would drag an as*hole like that into death with me. :skull:


You can fixate on the maggots if you like, or you can reflect on how your body is rejoining the natural cycle and will serve as the foundation for new life.

Or you could request someone come lie to you in a nice voice. Your choice, of course.


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01 Jun 2019, 7:28 am

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Just a thought, but when I'm dying I don't want a cynical atheist hanging around me reminding me that when we all die there is no afterlife waiting for us and that we become nothing but a big hunk of decaying rotten meat that worms and maggots feed off of. I think I would drag an as*hole like that into death with me. :skull:


I don’t believe in absolutes. While I think it’s highly unlikely that there is a loving God, I don’t think it’s entirely out of the realm of possibility.

Learning about the Bible and ultimately rejecting Christianity has been an empowering thing for me personally, but I can understand why others would like it and believe in it.



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01 Jun 2019, 7:29 am

You guys suck.


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01 Jun 2019, 7:33 am

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You guys suck.


What do they suck ?


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01 Jun 2019, 7:34 am

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TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
You guys suck.


What do they suck ?


I suck on cough drops when I have a cough.