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If I came up with a religion in which there was no racism, sexism, or homophobia and no hell unless maybe the person was truly deserving, would anyone here follow me?

My religion would also not discount any science or other knowledge that has been discovered or will be discovered. Everyone will be welcome and we will all coexist as one community with no conflict.

An idealistic religion with one clear leader. Hmm... No thanks! I’ve had my fill of cults for one lifetime (unless it’s one of my own making. )

If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

What would your cult be like if you had one?

I came up with a fictional religion. It's called Cthulhicism.
Requirements: Must have an understanding of the works of H.P. Lovecraft, must worship Cthulhu, must convert others like Jehovah's witnesses, and consumption of squid and octopus is forbidden.

That's all I got so far. You can add more if you want.

Something centered around goddess worship with lots of strange and absurd rituals.

I don’t think that people can be united through religion, so I’d primarily be interested in having fun.

I lile my ice-cream cult idea.

I don’t know...

I like calamari and sauce made out of squid ink.

Ice cream is my favorite food! I’d be for it!

My religion would definitely have ice cream socials. I will have to do more work on the rest. I think that there could be one religion everyone agrees on. It is just that nobody has thought of it yet.

I don’t think so because we all have different values as far as religion goes. Some people like the history of older religions, some value beauty, some value traditions (especially if they are in the person’s family), some want to follow old texts, and some (like me) don’t want to follow any.

We have trouble agreeing about morality and ethics.

There’s just no way that we could all agree on one religion, and I’m not sure that we should. Many vibrant cultures have sprung from diverse religions.

Basically in my religion there are three main deities: Vanilla, Chocolate, and Strawberry. As well as thousands of other lesser deities of flavor (rocky road, mint, butter pecan, caramel, etc).

Strawberry is the Mother Goddess who birthed all of creation, Vanilla is the Good God of Justice who lays down the laws that teaches us right from wrong, and Chocolate is the Evil God of Corruption who tempts us to the dark side.

It is as written by the prophets Baskin and Robbins.

Behold the three holy symbols representing the three lords of tastiness!

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I am not sure. Sometimes I think our morals aren’t really as different as we think. As far as murder, rape, theft and things like that we all agree. We disagree as to things like if gays can marry but we all would agree for the most part that people deserve to be happy and everyone should be respected. We would just need a more libertarian way of dealing with some issues.

We adamantly disagree about abortion, gay marriage, where to draw the line with public nudity, curse words, LGBT issues (especially transgenderism), gender issues and differences, and how to discipline our kids.

These are just a few examples of how our morality is shaped and dictated by religion.

How would we get people to switch when they prefer the religion they were raised with? Most people don’t want to leave their religion no matter how unpleasant it is to follow. There’s the idea: if you’re having fun, you must be doing something wrong! Sometimes strict groups have a tight social network that people enjoy. People also have notions about absolute Truth as well and wouldn’t want to adopt a religion they view as false.

Some religions do have extremely differing values. It would be impossible to make everyone happy. Also, the leaders of the one religion would amass too much power, and it could descend into a very corrupt situation, if not a dictatorship.

We have enough trouble with corrupt religious leaders as it is. I think a gradual, organic push away from religion with an emphasis on humanism is the way to go.

Most people don’t approach religion from a rational state of mind because religion is based on irrational beliefs. I don’t mean this to be disrespectful because I’m open to the possibility that I’m wrong. A belief in a god(dess) that we can’t see and who doesn’t talk to us directly involves faith. Then people get caught up in following rule books (like the Bible or Quran) to please God instead of relying on human wisdom which they regard as inferior to the Divine Being’s.

There’s just a lot of complexities here that would make the creation of a new religion problematic. Humans have too extensive of a history with religion to start fresh.

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I think creating a religion these days is so tightly coupled to con-artistry that it's generally a joke, and worse if someone wants to create a personality cult of some type.

One of the worst things about spirituality is we're really left either a) to our own devices or b) in whatever religion our parents raised us in, regardless of its competence on spiritual matters, and in that case people just see it as a social networking institution or a feather you can add to your 'fitting in' cap.

I really don't think we're likely to have more new and serious religions emerge. What I think can still be still relevant in our current day and age are public and private mysteries. I've noticed that some of the eastern orthodox churches actually do have a few levels of initiation within their ranks and similarly I think having a church, per say, to attend, meet people, find partners to make families, etc. is a critical social service that should be provided but a mystery-based body would keep more to the symbols, to the ritual, to the Jung, pay less attention to politics and have it be a body where people can either show up every Friday, Saturday, or Sunday to feel warm fuzzies or they could decide that they want to go deeper in the symbols, into the higher-order forms of morality, and a lot of those steps tend to lead us further away from dualistic thinking and indeed can look a bit controversial from the outside.

Maybe the question we might want to ask - what would stop us from bringing the mysteries back? They seem like they're great for individually cultivating people, to the extent that Freemasonry was big on initiation so many years ago (now you can just watch videos and get from first to thirty second degree in Scottish Rite in like a year or year and half) the motto was something to the extent of 'making good men better'.

It's clear our culture has a massive hole and most of what we've been doing for the past few decades - at least - has been demolishing culture without any attempts to build new things in place of what we cleared away.


Part of the problem with broaching this conversation of course - very few people these days really have a grasp on what 'mysteries' as organizations or initiatic orders exactly are, and still other people just say it's all crap - ie. all we need is science. Science really doesn't do well with helping us grapple with big issues, with dire internal crises, etc., it does help make better technology, better medicine, etc.. but it seems largely indifferent to sociology and what kinds of things are needed to make robust adults.

Go for it. That's the beauty of living in a relatively free country. You're free to practice goddess worship and others are free to shun doing so.