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20 Jun 2019, 6:35 pm

Anybody think that the pain of dying can be alluded to the pain of childbirth? Not that I would know since I have no uterus. :P

When women go through the pain of childbirth, new life is created.

Perhaps when we all go through the pain and suffering of dying, we too experience another new life? The afterlife in the next world?

We will all die someday, and perhaps that pain of dying serves to remind us of what our own mothers went through to help create us? Talk about 'sympathy pains' right?


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20 Jun 2019, 6:44 pm

Humans are not well-adapted to childbirth.

There is a theory that the pertinent childbirth anatomy was sacrificed for the sake of bipedal walking in the savanna.

Many women died in childbirth until the advent of modern medicine.



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20 Jun 2019, 6:48 pm

Yes, humans are the only mammal species in which childbirth is so traumatic for the birth giver.



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20 Jun 2019, 6:49 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Humans are not well-adapted to childbirth.

There is a theory that the pertinent childbirth anatomy was sacrificed for the sake of bipedal walking in the savanna.

Many women died in childbirth until the advent of modern medicine.


And thus we ate from that fruit of knowledge giving us the ability to help women through child birth with modern medicine. :idea:

Maybe there is a spiritual link between being born and dying? :chin:


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20 Jun 2019, 6:52 pm

Women still do die in childbirth. I wasn’t that far away from that reality myself. It was still a beautiful experience that I remember fondly, though.



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20 Jun 2019, 6:54 pm

That was one of the results of the Fall, and of us being tossed out of the Garden.

Women would have to give birth in agony from then on.



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20 Jun 2019, 6:56 pm

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That was one of the results of the Fall, and of us being tossed out of the Garden.

Women would have to give birth in agony from then on.


Those scriptures used to make me so angry! Lol



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20 Jun 2019, 7:00 pm

Freud believed, in essence, that we had a "will to die," so to speak, from the time of birth.



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20 Jun 2019, 7:01 pm

I still find it interesting how women bare the pain of creating life, a pain that can actually cause them or their unborn babies to die from the trauma of it all, and we ourselves are all doomed to die.

Some of us are lucky and die quickly or in our sleep, but most of the time it feels like there is some form of suffering that comes with dying either by being killed by another human, being killed in an accident, or suffering an illness.

Pain is the common link between life and death. :skull:


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20 Jun 2019, 7:09 pm

But perhaps something better waits for us after the pain of dying?

Either a new life in the next world. :heart:

Or an eternal peaceful sleep with no more worries. :skull:


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20 Jun 2019, 7:09 pm

During childbirth, the pain is somewhat reduced by the excitement of meeting a cute and cuddly new little person.

Going into labor is terrifying but it’s exciting, too.



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20 Jun 2019, 7:14 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
During childbirth, the pain is somewhat reduced by the excitement of meeting a cute and cuddly new little person.

Going into labor is terrifying but it’s exciting, too.


I hope death is the same way for everyone.

I've heard of stories of people who had near-death experiences and they were no longer afraid of dying after because they felt a blissful feeling before waking back up. Some claimed to see loved ones in the next world or have an out of body experience.

In French they allude the final blissful moments of dying to a pleasurable orgasm, calling it "La Petite Mort" (The Little Death).


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20 Jun 2019, 7:30 pm

I want to feel good when I die. I don't want to feel pain.

My dad probably felt suffocated when he died. I didn't want him to die like that.



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20 Jun 2019, 7:50 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I want to feel good when I die. I don't want to feel pain.

My dad probably felt suffocated when he died. I didn't want him to die like that.


I think about how my grandparents have died of dementia, my grandfather is suffering alzhiemers.

I never want to suffer like that. :(

But maybe in the end they felt a wonderful bliss that made all the pain and suffering go away? I can only hope. :heart:


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20 Jun 2019, 8:08 pm

TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Anybody think that the pain of dying can be alluded to the pain of childbirth? Not that I would know since I have no uterus. :P

When women go through the pain of childbirth, new life is created.

Perhaps when we all go through the pain and suffering of dying, we too experience another new life? The afterlife in the next world?

We will all die someday, and perhaps that pain of dying serves to remind us of what our own mothers went through to help create us? Talk about 'sympathy pains' right?


Here's an interesting little speech about that:



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20 Jun 2019, 8:18 pm

EzraS wrote:
TheRevengeofTW1ZTY wrote:
Anybody think that the pain of dying can be alluded to the pain of childbirth? Not that I would know since I have no uterus. :P

When women go through the pain of childbirth, new life is created.

Perhaps when we all go through the pain and suffering of dying, we too experience another new life? The afterlife in the next world?

We will all die someday, and perhaps that pain of dying serves to remind us of what our own mothers went through to help create us? Talk about 'sympathy pains' right?


Here's an interesting little speech about that:



Very interesting scene! :chin:

What movie is that?


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