If God exists, I want to have a discussion when I meet him
When I meet God I want to have a talk with him in his office about my questions and why he allowed this and that unfair stuff and why he (or collectively a country or world in case of nuclear war or something like that) can't simply re-incarnate people or things to a previous working state. Traditional Christian heaven doesn't appeal to me, which is ironic since we say God can give us our greatest desires. This stuff is kind of part of the root of my concerns about mankind on this planet.
Honestly, I'd like the chance to live in this world at any period before I was actually born and live in the older eras. Is there even anyone else that relates or am I the only one here?
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I'm sure every era has had its pros and cons. If reincarnation is real as many believe, then maybe some or even all of us did see such eras. But memory of such events or lives seems to be mostly limited to childhood under the age of 4 or 5.
There has been a great deal of injustice throughout history. Animals also experience this as well as humans. They must really question humankind's apparent superiority at times. I guess we tend to question things in the same way when we see some of the evil or unjust happenings we can't do much about. Thus we have to turn to being/s who are apparently on a higher plane.
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Traditional Christian heaven doesn't appeal to me, which is ironic since we say God can give us our greatest desires.
Considering that biblical Christianity has been so poorly presented in thousands of different ways, it is not surprising that someone might have a mistaken perspective of what the human / God relationship would or should be.
If we think of God as a vending machine or magic lamp (interestingly the word genie is derived from the Arabic for demon)., we begin to see him as a poor servant who does an inadequate job of granting our wishes.
Perhaps it is our perspective as ultimate consumers looking for sensations, diversions, and experiences that lead us to conclude that God has a lot of explaining to do.
One thesis that can be considered is that we have grown up in a social world that has been intentionally designed to deceive us. Consider the common view that hardship and difficulty represent that which is to be avoided and comfort and ease represent that which should be pursed.
Consider two wealthy fathers of young men who both rebel against their fathers. One father chooses to cut off all funds from his rebellious son. The other father allows his son to continue access to his funds. The first son has to find a job to earn the money he needs to eat. The second son continues to finance whatever indulgences and whims he fancies. The difficulties the first son encounters help him come to understand reality and truth. The delusions and dissipations of the second son carry him increasingly further from truth.
Getting what we want may seem attractive, but can be corruptive and destructive.
Before rejecting Christianity out of hand, it may be useful to get a more accurate understanding of what it really is rather than being offended by one of the many flawed presentations. Here is a web site that can help for those who have not been happy with what they have found in more traditional presentations.
http://christianpioneer.com/
I don't' relate to the grass was greener back in the day part, but I do to the other. Only I think there's going to be a very long line of people in front of you asking for their money back...
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Considering that biblical Christianity has been so poorly presented in thousands of different ways, it is not surprising that someone might have a mistaken perspective of what the human / God relationship would or should be.
If we think of God as a vending machine or magic lamp (interestingly the word genie is derived from the Arabic for demon)., we begin to see him as a poor servant who does an inadequate job of granting our wishes.
Perhaps it is our perspective as ultimate consumers looking for sensations, diversions, and experiences that lead us to conclude that God has a lot of explaining to do.
One thesis that can be considered is that we have grown up in a social world that has been intentionally designed to deceive us. Consider the common view that hardship and difficulty represent that which is to be avoided and comfort and ease represent that which should be pursed.
Consider two wealthy fathers of young men who both rebel against their fathers. One father chooses to cut off all funds from his rebellious son. The other father allows his son to continue access to his funds. The first son has to find a job to earn the money he needs to eat. The second son continues to finance whatever indulgences and whims he fancies. The difficulties the first son encounters help him come to understand reality and truth. The delusions and dissipations of the second son carry him increasingly further from truth.
Getting what we want may seem attractive, but can be corruptive and destructive.
Before rejecting Christianity out of hand, it may be useful to get a more accurate understanding of what it really is rather than being offended by one of the many flawed presentations. Here is a web site that can help for those who have not been happy with what they have found in more traditional presentations.
http://christianpioneer.com/
I think you're projecting A LOT. I've learned from early childhood to take care of myself (had to), and I never had any expectations from God or anyone else to make me happy or fulfil my wishes - that has always been my job.
Some people really care about others and don't hide their heads in the sand: we're surrounded by so much suffering, abuses and injustices, so many lives destroyed before even having a real chance, that the idea of this loving, fair God looks like a very bad joke or delusion, depending how you look at it.
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If anything like It exists it's not biblical in it's foundations, it's not 'omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent', if anything it's the ground of being and has its own problems, hangups, and far more than not about the reality enacted through it that it has no say in.
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Considering that biblical Christianity has been so poorly presented in thousands of different ways, it is not surprising that someone might have a mistaken perspective of what the human / God relationship would or should be.
If we think of God as a vending machine or magic lamp (interestingly the word genie is derived from the Arabic for demon)., we begin to see him as a poor servant who does an inadequate job of granting our wishes.
Perhaps it is our perspective as ultimate consumers looking for sensations, diversions, and experiences that lead us to conclude that God has a lot of explaining to do.
One thesis that can be considered is that we have grown up in a social world that has been intentionally designed to deceive us. Consider the common view that hardship and difficulty represent that which is to be avoided and comfort and ease represent that which should be pursed.
Consider two wealthy fathers of young men who both rebel against their fathers. One father chooses to cut off all funds from his rebellious son. The other father allows his son to continue access to his funds. The first son has to find a job to earn the money he needs to eat. The second son continues to finance whatever indulgences and whims he fancies. The difficulties the first son encounters help him come to understand reality and truth. The delusions and dissipations of the second son carry him increasingly further from truth.
Getting what we want may seem attractive, but can be corruptive and destructive.
Before rejecting Christianity out of hand, it may be useful to get a more accurate understanding of what it really is rather than being offended by one of the many flawed presentations. Here is a web site that can help for those who have not been happy with what they have found in more traditional presentations.
http://christianpioneer.com/
I think you're projecting A LOT. I've learned from early childhood to take care of myself (had to), and I never had any expectations from God or anyone else to make me happy or fulfil my wishes - that has always been my job.
Some people really care about others and don't hide their heads in the sand: we're surrounded by so much suffering, abuses and injustices, so many lives destroyed before even having a real chance, that the idea of this loving, fair God looks like a very bad joke or delusion, depending how you look at it.
I see it all as a form of victim blaming. "If I'm screwing you over and getting away with it, it's because God favors ME and not YOU and you deserve to suffer!" Typical white man Christian logic.

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