Antifa sympathisers are ‘whitewashing’ violence: Andy Ngo

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21 Jul 2019, 4:58 am

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Antifa sympathisers are ‘whitewashing’ violence: Andy Ngo

Independent journalist Andy Ngo says it’s disturbing that Antifa sympathisers in the media are ‘whitewashing’ the far-left group.

https://youtu.be/5sc_6KHAJmg

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21 Jul 2019, 9:16 am

If Antifa is “fighting racism”, then why are their groups overwhelmingly white, probably middle-class or higher?

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23 Jul 2019, 1:36 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

If Antifa is “fighting racism”, then why are their groups overwhelmingly white, probably middle-class or higher?

Because despite claiming to be against racism, they're somehow okay with the idea of a "race traitor".

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23 Jul 2019, 3:10 pm

Completely whitewashed or under-reported by the mainstream media. How predictable.
Fake News by omission from extreme bias is the most common and most dangerous form of Fake News. It's silent and invisible, while Fake News by lying is often obviously Fake.

What would happen if a group of masked Trump supporters attacked a journalist? All hell would break loose.

Orwell said that if fascism came to Britain, it would call itself anti-fascism.
Right insight, wrong country.

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24 Jul 2019, 5:01 pm

Shrapnel wrote:

Orwell said that if fascism came to Britain, it would call itself anti-fascism.
Right insight, wrong country.

Firstly, that doesn't sound like something Orwell would say. Do you have a source for the quote?

Secondly, Orwell literally joined an armed anarchist militia in order to fight fascists. If he was alive today he would be an antifa member.

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24 Jul 2019, 5:10 pm

There's a quote like that----but it is attributed to Huey Long, the Louisiana governor and "populist" of the 1930s--and it allegedly pertained to the United States. There's no apparent evidence that he said either:

"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the Flag"

or

"Sure, we'll have Fascism in this country---and we will call it "anti-Fascism."

There's no way Orwell came up with that quote.

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24 Jul 2019, 6:43 pm

The_Walrus wrote:

Shrapnel wrote:

Orwell said that if fascism came to Britain, it would call itself anti-fascism.
Right insight, wrong country.

The impression I get from people sometimes is that there is nothing between anarcho-communism and fascism.

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24 Jul 2019, 7:19 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

The impression I get from people sometimes is that there is nothing between anarcho-communism and fascism.

Intellectual and political fly-over country, where people are normal, boring, and productive.

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24 Jul 2019, 7:23 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

The_Walrus wrote:

Shrapnel wrote:

Orwell said that if fascism came to Britain, it would call itself anti-fascism.
Right insight, wrong country.

The impression I get from people sometimes is that there is nothing between anarcho-communism and fascism.

Yea, I can't find a link to Orwell either. Sorry, a faulty memory, I thought I had read something to that effect in the Guardian of all places.
Regarding the Spanish Civil War, the Nazi backed Spanish were fighting the Soviet backed Spanish. Totalitarians both. No real winners there. Hard to believe that war is so romanticized.

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25 Jul 2019, 9:36 am

The_Walrus wrote:

Shrapnel wrote:

Orwell said that if fascism came to Britain, it would call itself anti-fascism.
Right insight, wrong country.

Couldn't seem to edit my previous comment, but I'd like to add I didn't intend to directly quote Orwell. More Orwell's insight.
Isn't the statement consistent with Orwell's famous contradictions? War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

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25 Jul 2019, 9:42 am

"Ignorance is Strength," etc. were the slogans of the domain of Big Brother (Eurasia) within the dystopic "1984."

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02 Aug 2019, 8:23 am

The_Walrus wrote:

Secondly, Orwell literally joined an armed anarchist militia in order to fight fascists. If he was alive today he would be an antifa member.

That doesn't describe antifa at all though. Unless you think this gay asian journalist's mission is to establish the fourth reich. They're too dumb or radical to distinguish between trump supporting bog standard conservatives and neo-nazis. It's also hard to maintain you're the ones fighting fascism when you initiate violence upon those simply expressing their right to free speech as they so often do.

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02 Aug 2019, 6:18 pm

eternal suffering wrote:

The_Walrus wrote:

Secondly, Orwell literally joined an armed anarchist militia in order to fight fascists. If he was alive today he would be an antifa member.

The Portland antifa cell appeared to judge Andy more by his actions than his personal identity.

Andy was doxxing and harassing people. Andy is whitewashing his incitements.

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02 Aug 2019, 9:26 pm

RushKing wrote:

The Portland antifa cell appeared to judge Andy more by his actions than his personal identity.

Andy was doxxing and harassing people. Andy is whitewashing his incitements.

And naturally being thoroughly abused through various substances being thrown and sprayed at him and beaten to the point of receiving a brain hemorrhage is justified. <extreme sarcasm>

Are you seriously justifying the treatment he received by *some* members of Antifa?
Isn't this rather extreme and inexcusable antisocial behaviour by *some* of its members?
I really want to know.

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02 Aug 2019, 9:58 pm

I'm expanding the discussion. I would like people to think critically about these subjects.

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