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27 Aug 2019, 8:11 pm

Right-Wing Star Andy Ngo Exits Quillette After Damning Video Surfaces

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The writer and photog is out of a job after being caught in incriminating undercover footage with right-wing activists. His former employer insists the two events aren’t related.



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27 Aug 2019, 8:42 pm

A few things that bother me with this article...

What's supposed to justify the incident that made him famous? They left that out.

Also this...

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Hours after the Portland Mercury story ran on Monday, Ngo removed his Quillette job from his Twitter profile. Shortly after that, Ngo’s name disappeared from the masthead at Quillette, a self-described “platform for free thought” that has become a hub for the right-wing Intellectual Dark Web movement.

That doesn't seem like something one would say unless they're either relying on word of mouth without following up to see what the IDW actually is or they've taken to calling the center-left right-wing. Neither case speaks well for the author.


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27 Aug 2019, 9:09 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
A few things that bother me with this article...

What's supposed to justify the incident that made him famous? They left that out.

Let people make up their own minds.
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That doesn't seem like something one would say unless they're either relying on word of mouth without following up to see what the IDW actually is or they've taken to calling the center-left right-wing. Neither case speaks well for the author.

I know you in particular are very big IDW follower. I would personally categorize them as center-right.

I can't trust them after this event -they all immediately wanted to start a witch hunt.



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27 Aug 2019, 9:27 pm

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Let people make up their own minds.

The place where fake news got turned around was when it was rumored that AntiFa beat up an old man at random and it turned out he was a voluntary part of a skirmish. They were bringing violence, he decided to play the violence game too, tit for tat - that detail changes everything. I can't think of a threshold where journalism breaks the violence mark unless a particular journalist is being so irresponsible as to call for violence against a group of people and even there that's such a public and printed blunder that the authorities have everything they need to take them to task on that.

Yes, people can make up their own minds, but still I think it would rely on people's ignorance to say 'Ah, he was out in the iffy right-of-center zone - the attack and his politics wash even'.

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techstepgenr8tion wrote:
That doesn't seem like something one would say unless they're either relying on word of mouth without following up to see what the IDW actually is or they've taken to calling the center-left right-wing. Neither case speaks well for the author.

I know you in particular are very big IDW follower. I would personally categorize them as center-right.

I can't trust them after this event -they all immediately wanted to start a witch hunt.

Quillette or the IDW and if the IDW which particular members? I think specifics will help make your point better and may start a more interesting conversation than the article.


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27 Aug 2019, 9:52 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Let people make up their own minds.

The place where fake news got turned around was when it was rumored that AntiFa beat up an old man at random and it turned out he was a voluntary part of a skirmish. They were bringing violence, he decided to play the violence game too, tit for tat - that detail changes everything. I can't think of a threshold where journalism breaks the violence mark unless a particular journalist is being so irresponsible as to call for violence against a group of people and even there that's such a public and printed blunder that the authorities have everything they need to take them to task on that.

Yes, people can make up their own minds, but still I think it would rely on people's ignorance to say 'Ah, he was out in the iffy right-of-center zone - the attack and his politics wash even'.

I don't have a problem with journalism. I take issue with doxings, which in my mind breaks a violence threshold. You put peoples lives at risk when you do that.

IDW reported the event as an unprovoked attack. I can't trust them after this.



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27 Aug 2019, 10:01 pm

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I take issue with doxings, which in my mind breaks a violence threshold. You put peoples lives at risk when you do that.

I'd agree that gets a lot closer to meeting a like with like, I'm also glad you said that because that was the piece I was missing.


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