It's Trump's fault we're in this mess with Iran

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We had a deal with Iran, one that sidelined the hardliners in that country, and enabled the moderates to come to the fore. But because of Trump's childishness, and because he couldn't bear Obama having any lasting accomplishments, went and tore up that deal. And now the hardliners are back in control in Iran, and they're showing Trump to be the paper tiger he really is:

https://www.newsweek.com/senator-blames ... al-1459685

Ignorance is bliss. The US under Obama wasn't even keeping to their side of the deal.

Trump is just a puppet doing what it's told from Israel.

the warmongers are having a field day.

Oh god, please don't start a half-arsed war with Iran. Iran is way too large and populated.
This isn't some desert mountain range like Afghanistan, which was easily conquered (many times by the British) but is impossible to hold. Iran will respond with a proper war that will last a decade.

i never believed that america's fall would so dramatically accelerate as it has these last few years.

No, it's actually President Dwight D. Eisenhower's fault for backing a 1954 coup against the reigning regime and installing the Shah of Iran as America's puppet. Had he left Iran alone, more diplomatic means could have been pursued (like with Saudi Arabia) and the religious leaders of Iran would not be so hostile toward us.

Correct.

Iran has one goal: to destroy Israel. Israel is a US ally. The US was founded on an Abrahamic religion (Christianity), Christians believe the Jews are God's chosen people. And what the Bible says about God blessing those who bless Israel and cursing those who curse Israel. Obama is a Muslim, Obama believes that the descendants of Abraham (via Hagar) and Ishmael is the correct path to heaven. He made a deal that Israel had the most to lose from, because he hates the Jews (although he would never admit to it).

Whether you subscribe to religion or not, it's still pulling the strings of politics in the 21st century for US/Middle Eastern countries. Iran would have attempted to harm Israel with that 'deal.' Their success remained to be seen, but the negation of the deal thwarted their plans temporarily. Take into consideration that Iran, more so than any other nation on the planet is dying to bring on, hasten, experience Armaggedon and the need to do away with Obama's death warrant on Israel should be obvious.

Why do you believe Obama is a Muslim?

He’s said that he’s a Christian....and there’s some “born again” in how he professes his religion.

No true Muslim would take his/her religion like that.

WRONG.

The British Colonies in America were mostly founded upon religious principles, while the US was founded as a secular state. It's right there in the First Amendment to the US Constitution:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

You may want to brush up on your history lessons.

I believe Obama is a Muslim because of his actions. It would not be in his best interest to deprive the US patriots the satisfaction of following through with the search and execution of Osama Bin Laden ( a small insignificant fish who believes in dying for his convictions anyway ). But, with the rise of anti-semitism around the globe, the climate was 'perfect' to sell the Iran 'deal' as good.

Who has the most to lose from the Iran deal? Answer: Israel.

What has the reputation and actions of Iran over the years taught us? They are unstable, decisions to bomb others are made on old grudges. They went from a country willing to at least think about moving into the 20th century in the 1970's to a regressed state who allowed their own religious zeal to harm their own citizens.

If you as "the leader of the free world" know that, WHY would you enter any deal for nuclear production?
Answer: you don't care who they harm with it.

Israel is very careful about entering into war, in any capacity. Were Iran to be attacked, Israel would step up because of where they are geographically (next door neighbors). The idea that a half-cracked dictator of Iran, who hates Israel and to a lesser degree, Saudi Arabia needs a nuclear bomb is telling. There was never a 'deal' about how much plutonium Iran would produce. It was just permission to produce, then the US turns their head. AND we funnel billions of dollars in cash.

That's why I believe Obama is a Muslim. No Christian who believes in the afterlife would do anything that might result in the destruction of Israel.

(1) Belief proves nothing.

(2) Israel has not been destroyed.

(3) Any REAL Christian would know that Israel will not be destroyed until the Last Days.

(4) A New Jerusalem will be erected in its place.

(5) Also, any REAL Christian would know that no one can predict when this will happen, not even The Son.

Are you at all familiar with human psychology? I want to say that I like the Constitution.

What would be the reason for Dianne Feinstein to say to Amy Barrett, "that dogma lives loudly within you?" After all, we have the constitution that says it can't. But it does.

Why do you think Libs had a s**t fit when Kavannah was nominated? I can promise you it wasn't Christine B. Ford, she was just a distraction. It's because they were scared s**tless about another Christian being on the Supreme Court. Do I think that most do a great job remaining neutral? Yes. But, I also believe there are cases when human law makers are faced with eternal soul decisions and if they are true whatevers, the convictions will prevail.

I'm in complete agreement. But, I'm also not a Muslim. These people really believe they can instigate the end of the world. If it's not time, it won't happen. That doesn't mean they aren't capable of causing an immense amount of suffering in the mean time.

Nothing that Dianne Feinstein, Amy Barret, Christine B. Ford or even Brett Kavanaugh can say will ever change the fact that the US is a secular state. And anyone in the current regime who declares otherwise is not going to change it either, especially by mere proclamation.

The Evangelical Christian Fundamentalists are wrong in this, too -- there is no way that they can even agree on which Christian religion to make into the "official" religion of the United States.

The United States of America has never been, is not, nor will ever be a Christian nation.

(... unless God Himself so decrees it, of course.)

On these points, we're in agreement.