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11 Oct 2019, 11:15 pm

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It's this Simple; attack what's Ms Greta says; not who she is; a common rule here too.

Why should I listen to Greta?
It makes much more sense to listen to a former Vice President (or is that President of Vice?), Al Gore.
He has, after all, much better connections and has much more life wisdom putting him in a better position to appreciate the finer details of life, the universe and everything.

I'd rather listen to his prediction of the incredible man-made destructive effect CO2 emissions will do in 12 years time.

In 2009, Al Gore Al warned there was a 75% chance that “the entire North ‘polarized’ cap will disappear in 5 to 7 years.”
75% chance sounded pretty scary and pretty certain at the time. 8O
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Former Vice President Al Gore references computer modeling to suggest that the north polar ice cap may lose virtually all of its ice within the next seven years. "Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years," says Gore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... sioIw4bvzI


https://youtu.be/MsioIw4bvzI
Boy is his face red. :mrgreen:

And where would all those polar bears go?
Doesn't matter, really, since they would all be extinct anyway.

Oh, wait!
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The 2018 State of the Polar Bear report, published today by the Global Warming Policy Foundation, confirms that polar bears are continuing to thrive, despite recent reductions in sea ice levels. This finding contradicts claims by environmentalists and some scientists that falls in sea ice would wipe out bear populations. https://www.thegwpf.org/new-report-pola ... to-thrive/


OK, OK,
Bad examples.
I'll try again.

Tim Flannery predicted the dams in Australia would never fill up again since there would be insufficient rain.

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Professional climate alarmist Tim Flannery first became famous for his dud predictions after predicting cities such as Brisbane and Sydney were likely to run out of water very quickly because of man-made global warming.

For instance, in 2007 he predicted:

So even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our river systems...
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andr ... 67b8b7a017


https://youtu.be/wM_C_-2MGWU

Doing massive replies to massive emails is out of my comfort zone so I'll cut it short here.

The bottom line is, there have been so many BS predictions that the credibility of these "chicken littles" is in a sad state of affairs.
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I'd rather listen to the kid "who cried wolf" instead.
Or maybe stop listening altogether. :mrgreen:
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I'll probably have another crack at the rest of your post down the line. :wink:


In this Case One Loud Greta Voice of Truth
Cancels out
One Loud Voice of Trump Lies.

In Other Words, at least she has good intentions;
And is Just repeating Scientific Consensus. That's amazing these days all by itself..;)


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15 Oct 2019, 8:02 pm

aghogday wrote:

In Other Words, at least she has good intentions;
And is Just repeating Scientific Consensus. That's amazing these days all by itself..;)


"The road to hell is paved with" something-or-other. :scratch:

You do realise that "consensus" is not what it is cracked up to be, right?
Are you aware that "scholarly" papers/studies which are peer-reviewed are often hampered by political bias?
The number of times I have come across the disclosure by academics saying they needed to favour a certain view to even get a guernsey is, well, quite a number indeed. 8O

In a previous thread, I pointed out how flawed the peer-review system actually is.
I suggest you get your big handsome head, full of brain cells, around that buddy boy. :mrgreen:

BTW, Many who joined the "consensus bandwagon" weren't even qualified to give an opinion. <EEP!>

In addition to this:
There are qualified critical thinkers out there who disagree with "the consensus".

By-the-way, what is the consensus anyway?
I have yet to find anyone brave or cluey enough to definitively, err, define what "the consensus" position is.
Would you like to take a crack at it?
Please? :mrgreen:

P.S.
I muchly appreciated your short reply. <big wet kiss> :mrgreen:



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15 Oct 2019, 8:50 pm

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It's a common Phenomenon for Folks to Flock to Online Discussion Groups to Pick a Side to try to win
an Argument to Boost their subjective Feelings of rising up in a Competition of Life to increase their Levels
of Serotonin; thereby, reducing anxiety and feeling really confident inside their own skin; chances are they
may even Naturally Improve their Posture like a Jordan Peterson Lobster Pose, too.

Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Obama, gave Greta Thunberg a Fist Bump Not too long ago; where she lives
he is considered a Man of High Status for Respect; therefore, Her Serotonin goes way up; not only then
but when she Stares Mr. Trump Down with a Lobster Pose of her own. She is living pretty high
on the Serotonin; however, for Males low on Serotonin the fact that she is a female and
Seen as Physically Weaker at least; brings an opportunity to attempt to bring her down
in online Worlds Far away from Face to Face to boost their feelings of Self-Worth; one
sees this Human one-upmanship all through Work And School As Folks Jockey for Position
on the Social Ladder to move ahead for Promotions and other School and Work Rewards.

Nice to see you to can think rationally when you set your mind to it. :P :mrgreen:



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So, not having to work i embarked on a 12,053 Mile Journey of Public Dance and in just a little over a Year into that
73 Month Journey i became Wildly Famous as noted by the Public Audience and Named as Legend too; really
just because i am the only one to do it in the South East at least as far as Biloxi, MS; and Tallahassee, FL;
Across the Gulf Coast; True, i've been recognized in Biloxi by Folks who Live over a Hundred Miles away in
Pensacola; and as far as Niceville, in Pensacola too; in the Panhandle of Florida; where my dance rules; haha.

Do you crave attention?

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The Grace and Balance of the Dance that many miles has made me incredibly Strong and Agile; one can
see the Progression as i really moved from rather uncoordinated to something more like a Silver-Back
Gorilla at a Solid 240 American Pounds of Muscle; 1520 LBS Max Leg Pressing Power, 8 reps too.

Are you boasting or simply sharing? :wink:

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In other words, when i get in to a discussion online there is nothing to boost up or down; it stays
pegged at good for everything i do; as far as the Great Feelings within of life; often referred to Nirvana
and Bliss, which is just another way of Saying the Kingdom of Heaven within; Autotelic Flow of being now.

I have a theory:
You have gone through physical/emotional pain that no one should ever have had to go through.
This changes people,
And when they find relief,
It can change their entire outlook on life, the universe and everything/k.

Good for you.
What works to you, err, works for you. :wink:
I have seen the exact same thing happen to a friend of mine.

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Of course Ms. Greta gets a bit anxious, in new environments; but on the other Hand she takes that
Anxiety and creates an impassioned speech that folks remember; Reminds me of the Last Dictator
Speech by Charlie Chaplin; it's not so much what the Message is in Politics; but how it is delivered.


She has definitely left an impression on me,
But not a good one.
While I am not attacking the 16-year-old girl,
I see her performance as hysterical (in both senses of the word) over information that is extremely flawed.

I would like to reassure Greta that she will not be extinct in 12 years time if CO2 emissions are not reduced to the unreasonable levels she is demanding. <comfort>

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Make no mistake, in effect Ms. Greta is acting as Activist and Politician too; albeit unofficially like
Martin Luther King did without being High Up in Real Politics either; but it's true the passion of the
Communication is what made the change; And what people really like about Ms. Greta is she always tells
the Truth; to see someone in the Public Arena telling the Truth always is truly a Breath of Fresh Air today.

Firstly:
Not everyone venerates/worships undisciplined "Passion".
Passion without reason/rationality is simply food for the proletariat.
Her belief in a 12-year deadline is far from a rational position, imo.

Secondly:
Greta tells what she believes to be the truth.
I concur.
That is a good start but without mature metacognition, she is more likely to be suffering from "Illusory Superiority".

Simply believing one knows the truth doesn't make it so.
One must first be in a position to know one's abilities and limitations.
This comes through life experience.
Life experiences tend to produce wisdom.
There is no substitute for "experience" that I am aware of.

Trust me.
I am the Oracle of Truth after all. :wink:

Well, that's it!
"No soup for you!" :mrgreen:
What I mean to say is that this is all the cerebral energy I am prepared to give to your long post.
Consider yourself blessed to be receiving this much divine enlightenment. :mrgreen:

Cheers Cobber. :wink:



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15 Oct 2019, 10:17 pm

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By-the-way, what is the consensus anyway?
I have yet to find anyone brave or cluey enough to definitively, err, define what "the consensus" position is.
Would you like to take a crack at it?
Please? :mrgreen:


That's the genius of taking action on 'climate change'. I've said it before and I'll say it again and again and again: 'Climate change' is the most perfect vehicle for controlling all aspects of people's lives on a global scale that has been or probably ever will be devised. It's perfect because it's nebulous, it's ever changing and therefore forever in need of modification. Implement rules X, Y and Z to limit, change, prevent or punish behaviors A, B and C. That didn't work? Implement additional rules E, J, R to further limit, change, prevent or punish behaviors of the masses. That didn't work? No matter: Implement additional rules.......... Never questioned. Always right and always with an urgency that will never go away. It's behavior modification and control in perpetuity. I can not believe that I'm the only person that sees the potential danger in this.



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15 Oct 2019, 10:30 pm

When I was in my 20's I had all kinds of fear and anxiety about the world ending. People didn't know how to help me because they knew reassurance wouldn't really help when even they weren't positive things would turn out okay, or they'd tell me I was being foolish and blowing everything out of proportion, like my mom when hurricane Juan hit Halifax, Nova Scotia, and I was afraid of a major hurricane hitting us here in Sydney, Nova Scotia. And that wasn't long after 9/11.

Now I can't buy anything made of plastic without feeling guilty, even if it's something I intend to keep for many years like toys or furniture. I'm sure the REUSABLE bags and food containers I own are plastic too, but eventually they wear out with use and get thrown away anyhow. You can't win.

I wonder how these men would act if it was an adult man instead? They'd probably still be horrible. Human beings always find an excuse to be horrible.



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16 Oct 2019, 7:12 am

Magna wrote:
Pepe wrote:
By-the-way, what is the consensus anyway?
I have yet to find anyone brave or cluey enough to definitively, err, define what "the consensus" position is.
Would you like to take a crack at it?
Please? :mrgreen:


That's the genius of taking action on 'climate change'. I've said it before and I'll say it again and again and again: 'Climate change' is the most perfect vehicle for controlling all aspects of people's lives on a global scale that has been or probably ever will be devised. It's perfect because it's nebulous, it's ever changing and therefore forever in need of modification. Implement rules X, Y and Z to limit, change, prevent or punish behaviors A, B and C. That didn't work? Implement additional rules E, J, R to further limit, change, prevent or punish behaviors of the masses. That didn't work? No matter: Implement additional rules.......... Never questioned. Always right and always with an urgency that will never go away. It's behavior modification and control in perpetuity. I can not believe that I'm the only person that sees the potential danger in this.


I see the same thing. It's all about control. The biggest proponents of it are also the PC "progressive" crowd. What you described is what I fear regarding my future. I see it as a far greater threat than climate change.



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16 Oct 2019, 7:27 am

Speaking of control, I think if we end up living in a Republican Evangelical Christian-controlled country they're gonna lock people just like me up in prison, or worse.

I'll end up a victim of religous persecution by fanatical nutjobs who tolerate Trump and Pence because they believe those two are helping them to gain more power and influence over the country. It's always about power and control with Christiains...




^ Me vs The Evangelical Trump Supporters



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16 Oct 2019, 7:40 am

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Speaking of control, I think if we end up living in a Republican Evangelical Christian-controlled country they're gonna lock people just like me up in prison, or worse.


No, it's only the evul liberalz who try to censor and control people. There's never been any connection between religion and censorship. /sarcasm


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16 Oct 2019, 7:46 am

More like the gullible liberals who don't realize what they are ultimately going to end up with.



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16 Oct 2019, 7:55 am

Those untrustworthy liberalz. Let's trust in the oil companies instead.


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16 Oct 2019, 7:56 am

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Those untrustworthy liberalz. Let's trust in the oil companies instead.



Yeah! We can use their oil to burn those liberal heretics at the stake! :P



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16 Oct 2019, 7:57 am

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Speaking of control, I think if we end up living in a Republican Evangelical Christian-controlled country they're gonna lock people just like me up in prison, or worse.

I'll end up a victim of religous persecution by fanatical nutjobs who tolerate Trump and Pence because they believe those two are helping them to gain more power and influence over the country. It's always about power and control with Christiains...




^ Me vs The Evangelical Trump Supporters


Trump is a fart in the wind. It's the long term picture you should consider. From what I hear there is a steady increase in STDs. Do you think those who want to control what we consume in the guise of making us healthier won't also want to control sex to protect us from STDs and to prevent unwanted pregnancies to keep the population down in their effort to control climate change to save us from extinction.



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16 Oct 2019, 8:05 am

EzraS wrote:
DoTheTw1zt wrote:
Speaking of control, I think if we end up living in a Republican Evangelical Christian-controlled country they're gonna lock people just like me up in prison, or worse.

I'll end up a victim of religous persecution by fanatical nutjobs who tolerate Trump and Pence because they believe those two are helping them to gain more power and influence over the country. It's always about power and control with Christiains...




^ Me vs The Evangelical Trump Supporters


Trump is a fart in the wind. It's the long term picture you should consider. From what I hear there is a steady increase in STDs. Do you think those who want to control what we consume in the guise of making us healthier won't also want to control sex to protect us from STDs and to prevent unwanted pregnancies to keep the population down in their effort to control climate change to save us from extinction.



From what I understand millennials are having less "unwanted pregnancies" now and most of them are choosing not have children because it's too expensive, and the Evangelicals hate that because they think we all need to be forced to engage in heterosexual marriages and pop out as many babies as possible to keep the American population alive.

As for the STD thing, science can fight that a helluva lot better than Christians do. Their idea of combating STDs is shaming anybody who contracts one and pretending like sex does not exist. :roll:



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16 Oct 2019, 8:05 am

Many people who are “progressives” these days are not necessarily into “free love” like the hippies were 40-50 years ago.

They want to control the population and advocate having less children. They tend to be careful in their choice of partners.

“Progressive”—usually not hippie-like. Especially in the Millennial generation. In fact, they are rather cautious and strait-laced in sexual matters.



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16 Oct 2019, 8:16 am

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They want to control the population and advocate having less children.

You don't need control or strict rules to convince people to have less children. A drop in the infant mortality rate does wonders for family planning.


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16 Oct 2019, 8:18 am

In China they have the One Child law...