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07 Oct 2019, 11:41 am

Context for those who were not around or do not remember the 1980s
Tipper Gore - Wikipedia

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In 1985, Tipper Gore co-founded the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) with Susan Baker, wife of then–United States secretary of the treasury James Baker, because Gore heard her then 11-year-old daughter Karenna playing "Darling Nikki" by Prince. The group's goal was to increase parental and consumer awareness of music that contained explicit content through voluntary labeling albums with Parental Advisory stickers. Their coalition included the National PTA and the American Academy of Pediatrics. The PMRC had no members, merely founders, and all of the founders were wives of prominent politicians.

According to an article by NPR, Gore went "before Congress to urge warning labels for records marketed to children." Gore explained that her purpose wasn't to put a "gag" on music, but to keep it safe for younger listeners by providing parents with information about the content of the songs. A number of individuals including Dee Snider of Twisted Sister, Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys, John Denver, Joey Ramone, and Frank Zappa criticized the group, arguing that it was a form of censorship. In response, NPR further stated that according to Gore, she "wasn't out to censor the objectionable material" and quoted her as stating that she is "a strong believer in the First Amendment" who is calling for greater "consumer information in the marketplace."

The PMRC's efforts were successful and resulted in an agreement where recording labels voluntarily placed warning labels on music with violent or sexually explicit lyrics.


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When it comes to bad ideas, there’s always room at the bottom.

Conservatives used to exasperatedly observe of gun-grabbing Democrats, “Imagine how they’d complain if someone tried to treat the First Amendment the way they treat the Second Amendment!”

Hold my cappuccino, says Andrew Marantz of The New Yorker. Writing in the New York Times under the headline “Free Speech Is Killing Us” — and Marantz argues that is literally true — he argues that the gun-control program should be taken as a template for a speech-control program. He has come to this conclusion, he writes, after “having spent the past few years embedding as a reporter with the trolls and bigots and propagandists.” Some reporters are embedded in Afghanistan, and some are “embedded” on Twitter, which is a great place to be embedded in that you can do it while you are literally embedded, at home, in bed. The thing to understand, I suppose, is that this is a war story.

Marantz’s argument is drearily predictable. He writes that he does not want to repeal the First Amendment and then makes a case for gutting it, mired in vagueness (foreswearing the position of the “free-speech absolutist” but offering no controlling principle) with a great deal of not obviously plausible dot-connecting, and then moves on to what this is really about: an enemies list, in this case beginning with Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos, a couple of attention-hungry entrepreneurial charlatans who always have been and always will be found at the margins of public life.

Marantz is the author of a book about “online extremists,” because the guy who proposes gutting the Bill of Rights is worried about extremism.

The “x might plausibly encourage y” argument against free speech has been with us for a very long time. It was the basis for the persecution of heretics in the Christian world, the censorship that John Milton criticized in the 17th century, the suppression of war protesters in the United States (the legal justification of which is the origin of the ubiquitous “fire in a crowded theater” trope), and the effort to censor and marginalize rap music in the 1980s, a project that brought to public prominence a woman called Tipper Gore, at the time Mrs. Al. Mrs. Gore’s name became, for a generation, the national shorthand for prudish blue-rinsed tight-assery allied to scheming political opportunism. She was a figure of fun, loathed by all right-thinking people.

But Tipper Gore–ism, like the poor, syphilis, and usury, we shall always have with us.

Director Todd Phillips has made a kind of superhero movie, Joker, which forgoes the usual tights-and-tights comic-book formula to tell a different kind of story, a psychologically realistic account of the interaction of loneliness, despair, poverty, and cruelty. Surprisingly for what is, at after, a species of Batman film, it was awarded the Leone d’Oro for best film at the Venice Film Festival,and Joaquin Phoenix’s nomination for an Academy Award for his performance already is generally assumed.

But we live in philistine times, and the mob demands that art serve them. For that reason, film, television, literature, music, and much else is subjected to a standard of social utilitarianism, meaning that they are not judged on aesthetic criteria but for their value as propaganda, moral instruction, or therapy. Therapeutic notions are at the moment especially prevalent; that is why press criticism of Game of Thrones, to take one example, dealt with questions of demographic “representation” to the exclusion of almost everything else.

And so Joker is challenged on its “fitness for the present political moment,” as Sam Adams puts it in Slate. “Is this really the time for a story about a frustrated, alienated white man who turns to violence?” he asks. Of course it is, which is why there are at least five productions of Coriolanus under way, and the bestsellers lists are full of worked about frustrated, alienated white men who turn to violence — strangely, no one criticizes Margaret Atwood on those grounds. (What, The Handmaid’s Tale and The Testaments aren’t about frustrated, violent white guys?) Joker is in fact now criticized on the grounds of empathy, or at least suspicion of empathy. “Because our point of empathy in the film is Phoenix’s troubled Arthur, Joker basically dodges the question of whether we’re supposed to read his acts of violence as redemptive or abhorrent,” three (!) authors write in the Hollywood Reporter. The filmmakers, in this view, “leave themselves open to such charges of irresponsibility.” The New York Times complains:

"Joker is also causing deep unease. Some people, including a few rank-and-file employees on the Warner Bros. lot, worry
that the violent, hyper-realistic movie is potentially dangerous — that rather than critiquing the societal failings that have
given rise to America’s mass-shooter crisis, the film legitimizes such atrocities and could provoke more of them."

In much the same way that the left-wing cultural vanguard that once presented itself as the check on and alternative to corporate power immediately embraced corporate power upon getting its first real taste of it (the Left now is quite satisfied to deputize the HR departments of the Fortune 500 as guardians of political discipline), its members have grown friendlier to suppression of many kinds — and more hostile to heterodoxy — as their power has grown. Conservative critics of the National Endowment for the Arts once were treated to smug little homilies about how art is supposed to be transgressive, to challenge us, to make us uncomfortable, etc., and now we are treated to smug little sermonettes about the “dangerous” creation of films that cause “deep unease” among certain people who work at Warner Bros. or write for Slate or teach at Oberlin. (Aren’t those exactly the powerful people we’re supposed to want our art to make uncomfortable?) Reagan-era progressives scoffed when Tipper Gore and her allied church ladies panicked that the rise of rap music would turn America’s streets into a blood-drenched warzone (hip-hop culture’s eventual triumphant occupation of the commanding heights of pop in fact coincided with a dramatic decline in violent crime in the United States) or that Ozzy Osbourne songs were turning sweet towheaded kids in the suburbs into dope fiends and satanic little cannibals, or that violent video games were going to leave the real world looking like Grand Theft Auto. Power changes everything.

The moralistic busybodies were wrong in the Eighties. They’re wrong today. They deserved the contempt they received then. They deserve it now. The difference is that free speech and heterodoxy used to have allies in such venues as The New Yorker and the New York Times, where both political and artistic freedom now have so many enemies.

And maybe we can find someone to speak for the cause of art that declines to be subordinated to anybody’s political agenda, current social-improvement projects, the tender sensibilities of critics at the New York Times, or the increasingly baroque rules of etiquette that organizes the lives of New Yorker readers as they sway in the wind like a field of ripe corn. But I understand that retro-Eighties nostalgia is hot right now. If we’re going to bring back big hair and shoulder pads, we may as well resuscitate the public career of Tipper Gore, last seen skulking around Democratic fundraising circles at the junior-varsity level. Perhaps we could bring back Johnny Carson and the constant threat of nuclear annihilation while we’re at it.

Nuclear annihilation remains the safer bet, but one may still dream.


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07 Oct 2019, 11:57 am

Tipper Gore was too much into censorship. She overdid it on that count.



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07 Oct 2019, 1:06 pm

Interestingly the only thing Tipper Gore really accomplished was making this 'inappropriate' music more appealing to kids. Slap an explicit content label on something and every angsty adolescent/teen is going to want to hear it, see it or play it well at least that is how it seemed when I was a kid in the 90's to early 00's.

As for the Joker...leave it alone, it's called fiction Gotham city doesn't really exist nor do the characters that live there. Anyone who thinks that deranged mass shooter that shot up the theater wouldn't have done it if he hadn't been exposed to the Joker character is kind of an idiot.

I think it is possible a violent individual might knowingly try to desensitize themself or pump themselves up for it with media entertainment, but I doubt a rational person just becomes violent because they see violent content in movies or games.


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07 Oct 2019, 2:01 pm

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Dungeons & Dragons

Explicit lyrics in songs, and sexual situations in TV programs were not the only targets of "Moral Panic" during the 1980s...

Rona Jaffe

As the role-playing game hobby began to grow, it was connected to the story in 1979 of the disappearance of 16-year-old James Dallas Egbert III.  Egbert had attempted suicide in the utility tunnels beneath the campus of Michigan State University.  After this unsuccessful attempt, he hid at a friend's house for approximately a month. 

A well-publicized search for Egbert began, and his parents hired private investigator William Dear to seek out their son.  Dear knew nothing about Dungeons & Dragons at that time, but speculated to the press that Egbert had gotten lost in the steam tunnels during a session of a live action role-playing game.  The press largely reported the story as fact, which served as the kernel of a persistent rumor regarding such "steam tunnel incidents".  Egbert's suicide attempts, including his successful suicide the following year (by self-inflicted gunshot) had no connection whatsoever to D&D; they resulted from clinical depression and great stress.

Rona Jaffe published Mazes and Monsters in 1981, a thinly-disguised fictionalization of the press exaggerations of the Egbert case.  In an era when very few people understood role-playing games it seemed plausible to some elements of the public that a player might experience a psychotic episode and lose touch with reality during role-playing.  The book was adapted into a made-for-television movie in 1982 starring Tom Hanks, and the publicity surrounding both the novel and film heightened the public's unease regarding role-playing games.  In 1983, the Canadian film Skullduggery depicted a role-playing game similar to D&D as tool of the devil to transform a young man into a serial killer. 

Dear revealed the truth of the incident in his 1984 book The Dungeon Master, in which he repudiated the link between D&D and Egbert's disappearance.  Dear acknowledged that Egbert's domineering mother had more to do with his problems than his interest in role-playing games.

Neal Stephenson's 1984 novel satirizing university life, The Big U, includes a series of similar incidents in which a live-action fantasy role-player dies in a steam tunnel accident, leading to another gamer becoming mentally unstable and unable to distinguish reality from the game.


Patricia Pulling

Patricia Pulling was an anti-occult campaigner from Richmond, Virginia and the founder of Bothered About Dungeons & Dragons (BADD).  This one-person advocacy group was dedicated to the elimination of Dungeons & Dragons and other such games.  Pulling founded BADD in 1982 after her son Irving committed suicide; she continued her advocacy until her death in 1997.  As her son had played D&D, she filed a wrongful death lawsuit against her son's high school principal, holding him responsible for what she claimed was a D&D curse placed upon her son shortly before his death.  She later filed suit against TSR, publishers of the game at the time.

The case against TSR was thrown out in 1984, and most of her claims were disproved by reporters, especially Michael A. Stackpole, who demonstrated that gamers had lower suicide rates than non-gamers.  When her lawsuits were dismissed, she founded BADD and began publishing information to promote her belief that D&D encouraged Satanism, rape, and suicide, and incorporated an entire litany of immoral and illegal practices.  BADD effectively ceased to exist after Pulling died of cancer in 1997.


William Schnoebelen

William Schnoebelen wrote a series of articles criticizing Dungeons & Dragons from a Christian perspective.  Schnoebelen stated that he used to be a Wiccan priest as well as a Satanic priest.  After apostacizing from those faiths, he dedicated himself to encouraging others to avoid them as well.  In 1989 he wrote an article entitled "Straight Talk on Dungeons and Dragons," which was published by Chick Publications. 

The large amount of correspondence he received on the subject in the years that followed led him to write a follow-up article in 2001 entitled "Should a Christian Play Dungeons & Dragons?"  These essays portray Dungeons & Dragons as a tool for New Age Satanic groups to introduce concepts and behaviors that are seen as contrary to "Christian teaching and morality" in general.  Schnoebelen wrote in 2006: "In the late 1970s, a couple of the game writers actually came to my wife and I as prominent 'sorcerers' in the community.  They wanted to make certain the rituals were authentic.  For the most part, they are."

His first article summarized D&D as "a feeding program for occultism and witchcraft.  [...] Dungeons and Dragons violates the commandment of 1st Thessalonians 5:22 'Abstain from all appearance of evil.'"  It stated that rituals described in the game were capable of conjuring malevolent demons and producing other real-world effects.  The article further accused the Dungeon Master's Guide of celebrating Adolf Hitler for his charisma.

The only entry in the 1st edition related to Adolph Hitler in the Dungeon Masters Guide is as follows:

E. Gary Gygax wrote:
Charisma: Many persons have the sad misconception that charisma is merely physical attractiveness.  This error is obvious to any person who considers the subject with perceptiveness. Charisma is a combination of physical appearance, persuasiveness, and personal magnetism.  True charisma becomes evident when one considers such historic examples of Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, and Adolf Hitler.  Obviously, these individuals did not have an 18 score on physical beauty, so it is quite possible to assume that scores over 18 are possible, for any one of the named historical personalities would have had a higher charisma score - there can be no question that these individuals were 18's - if they would have had great attractiveness as well as commanding personal magnetism and superb persuasiveness.
 
Schnoebelen's second article focused on contrasting the Christian worldview and the fantasy worldview of D&D.  He wrote that "being exposed to all these ideas of magic to the degree that the game requires cannot but help have a significant impact on the minds of its players." (See Sociological Research, below.)


Lieth Von Stein

A 1988 murder case in Washington, North Carolina brought Dungeons & Dragons more unfavorable publicity.  Chris Pritchard, a student at North Carolina State University, allegedly masterminded the murder of his stepfather, Lieth Von Stein, for his $2 million fortune.  Von Stein and his wife Bonnie (Pritchard's mother) were both bludgeoned and stabbed by a masked assailant in their bedroom, leaving the husband fatally wounded and the wife gravely injured.

Chris Pritchard had a history of mutual antagonism with his stepfather, and investigators learned over the course of a year that Pritchard had become involved with drugs and alcohol while attending NCSU.  But the authorities focused on his role-playing group after a game map depicting the Von Stein house turned up as physical evidence.  Pritchard's friends, Neal Henderson and James Upchurch, were implicated in a plot to help Pritchard kill his stepfather.  All three young men went to state prison in 1990.  Henderson and Pritchard have since been paroled.  Upchurch's death sentence was commuted to life in 1992; he is serving his term.

True crime authors Joe McGinniss and Jerry Bledsoe played up the role-playing angle.  Much attention was given to Upchurch's influence and power as a Dungeon Master.  Bledsoe's book, Blood Games, was made into a TV movie, Honor Thy Mother, in 1992.  That same year, McGinniss' book was adapted into a two-part TV miniseries, Cruel Doubt, directed by Yves Simoneau.  Both television films depicted Dungeons & Dragons handbooks with artwork doctored to imply that they had inspired the murder.


Clinical Research

The American Association of Suicidology, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and Health and Welfare Canada all concluded that there is no causal link between fantasy gaming and suicide.  In 1990, Michael A.  Stackpole authored The Pulling Report, a review highly critical of Patricia Pulling and BADD's methods of data collection, analysis, and reporting.

Researchers outside the context of BADD have investigated the emotional impact of Dungeons & Dragons since the 1980s.  Studies have shown that depression and suicidal tendencies are not typically associated with role players.  Feelings of alienation are not associated with mainstream players, though those who are deeply, and often financially, committed to the game do tend to have these feelings.  According to one study there is "no significant correlation between years of playing the game and emotional stability."

One 2015 study has suggested that psychiatrists do not associate role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons with poor mental health.


Sociological Research

In 2015, Joseph P.  Laycock, analyzing the controversy in his book Dangerous Games: What the Moral Panic over Role-Playing Games Says about Play, Religion, and Imagined Worlds wrote that the gist of anti-D&D arguments were related to the fact that role-playing was perceived by some Christian philosophers and theologians as dangerous because it leads to critical thinking.  He explicitly wrote that "The arguments presented by Ankerber, Weldon, Leithart, Grant and Abanses serve as a cover to conceal the mechanisms of hegemony as well as to cover their own doubts about how indulging their love of fantasy might challenge their own faith".



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07 Oct 2019, 4:00 pm

I think if any lonely disgruntled young man sees the movie and afterwords does a mass shooting it more likely from getting constant messages in the media that the movie was supposed to make a person like him bond with the character and act upon his incel revenge fantasies than the actual movie sans media encouragement.

In the 60s there were many movies and a number of TV shows about WWII that were seen by people who fought in it. There was no controversy and no WWII vets being triggered(pun intended) and going out and shooting up places.

The Vietnam war was on TV every night and a lot more was shown of the fighting then there is now. Not counting drugs mass shootings were rare during this period.

In 1970 a movie came out called "Joe" where a working class New Yorker said to be the prototype for Archie Bunker shot up some hippies. It was popular and controversial, conservatives felt typecast. There was a similar incident that occurred just before the movie was released and the judge did bar jurors from seeing the movie. There were no incidents of conservatives being inspired by the movie and shooting up hippies/anti Vietnam war protesters. If you have not seen I highly recommend that you do because even though it was released in 1970 the issues involved are very current and the acting and pretty much everything else about the movie is top-notch.


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07 Oct 2019, 4:37 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I think if any lonely disgruntled young man sees the movie and afterwords does a mass shooting it more likely from getting constant messages in the media that the movie was supposed to make a person like him bond with the character and act upon his incel revenge fantasies than the actual movie sans media encouragement.


I think real life mass shooters are more likely to be an inspiration than a fictional character who in a movie never commits a mass shooting (although he does commit multiple murders).


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07 Oct 2019, 4:43 pm

Antrax wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
I think if any lonely disgruntled young man sees the movie and afterwords does a mass shooting it more likely from getting constant messages in the media that the movie was supposed to make a person like him bond with the character and act upon his incel revenge fantasies than the actual movie sans media encouragement.


I think real life mass shooters are more likely to be an inspiration than a fictional character who in a movie never commits a mass shooting (although he does commit multiple murders).

Probably true but that is not the but slightly off topic, so I did not include it.


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