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12 Nov 2019, 11:12 am

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Being alive is offensive and discriminatory to the corporeally challenged.

That packs a lot of wisdom

You're WOKE to a micro-aggression of "alive", AND hip to euphemize the trigger word "dead".

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12 Nov 2019, 4:01 pm

So it seems like any struggle or injustice that far-right snowflakes wish to ignore and invalidate isn't politically correct to discuss openly anymore.

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12 Nov 2019, 4:25 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

So it seems like any struggle or injustice that far-right snowflakes wish to ignore and invalidate isn't politically correct to discuss openly anymore.

Not so much. It's also the in-your-face attitude of far-left activists who insist that everyone should wail and moan about every single one of the far left's social experiences that makes the rest of us look upon being "woke" as something both annoying and distasteful.

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12 Nov 2019, 4:36 pm

Fnord wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

So it seems like any struggle or injustice that far-right snowflakes wish to ignore and invalidate isn't politically correct to discuss openly anymore.

It makes sense that people might focus on the injustices that personally impact them. Most of the people for whom those issues are relevant aren't actually on the far-left. It's just that the far-left doesn't suffer from the kneejerk need to silence those who speak about issues that don't directly impact them, so they tend to be among the first allies those people are likely to find.

You don't need to be 'woke', but it would be nice if more people would listen to what disadvantaged people say effects them instead of immediately dismissing and invalidating them. One would think that being disadvantaged persons might make us as a community more willing to listen to what others have to say about their experience, since elements of our struggles might be difficult for others to understand and yet we would still hope to be listened to.

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12 Nov 2019, 4:43 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

... You don't need to be 'woke', but it would be nice if more people would listen to what disadvantaged people say effects them instead of immediately dismissing and invalidating them...

^ THAT ^

Unfortunately, I keep running into people all over the political and ASD spectra who seem to have such intense "More Disabled and Discriminated Than Thou" attitudes that it is practically impossible for them to see anyone else's problems beyond their own.

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12 Nov 2019, 5:19 pm

Fnord wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

... You don't need to be 'woke', but it would be nice if more people would listen to what disadvantaged people say effects them instead of immediately dismissing and invalidating them...

For what it's worth, 'woke' often seems to flip that trend. It should be refreshing to hear people losing their s**t over someone else's problems and struggles instead of their own for once. :lol:

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13 Nov 2019, 2:48 am

I wonder what WP members tell their autism doctor.

In weekly sessions, I would tell him, "I have brain damage", "Something is not connected".

On the WP General Forum, "How dare you suggest autism is brain damage".

I would rather confront issues truthfully.

It seems like WOKE is requiring us to be phony, to avoid hurting other people's feelings.

Do WP members actually euphemize their condition(s) in doctor sessions?

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13 Nov 2019, 4:15 am

funeralxempire wrote:

It should be refreshing to hear people losing their s**t over someone else's problems and struggles instead of their own for once. :lol:

Not realy refreshing. It's the good ol' "Children in Africa starve and you dare say you don't like your soup!", the way I hear it.
Use someone's disadvantage to shame and invalidate others.

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13 Nov 2019, 9:03 am

magz wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

It should be refreshing to hear people losing their s**t over someone else's problems and struggles instead of their own for once.

Not realy refreshing. It's the good ol' "Children in Africa starve and you dare say you don't like your soup!", the way I hear it. Use someone's disadvantage to shame and invalidate others.

To turn an old adage around: "You whine about having no shoes when that little boy over there doesn't even have FEET?! You should be ashamed of yourself!"

:roll:

Yeah ... been there ...

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13 Nov 2019, 3:40 pm

Fnord wrote:

magz wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

It should be refreshing to hear people losing their s**t over someone else's problems and struggles instead of their own for once.

Not realy refreshing. It's the good ol' "Children in Africa starve and you dare say you don't like your soup!", the way I hear it. Use someone's disadvantage to shame and invalidate others.

To turn an old adage around: "You whine about having no shoes when that little boy over there doesn't even have FEET?! You should be ashamed of yourself!"

:roll:

Yeah ... been there ...

Like a lot of mindsets, I've never gotten the mindset of 'oh, how dare you complain about your issues so long as even a single person is worse off'.

People have many ways to invalidate other people's concerns.

Just a tangent, but ever notice the things we laugh off as 'first world problems' are almost always universal issues that we poke fun at as not being serious, but even people with much larger issues are at least sometimes aggravated by those little daily frustrations.

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13 Nov 2019, 4:28 pm

Being "woke" is acting over-emotional and they are indeed the modern version of religious fundamentalists. What's scary is that a lot of people in power and prestige actually take them seriously.

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13 Nov 2019, 9:03 pm

Hollywood_Guy wrote:

Being "woke" is acting over-emotional and they are indeed the modern version of religious fundamentalists. What's scary is that a lot of people in power and prestige actually take them seriously.

Yes. "Political correctness" has long had a tendency to go overboard, and become a new kind of "Puritanism".

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naturalplastic wrote:

Hollywood_Guy wrote:

Being "woke" is acting over-emotional and they are indeed the modern version of religious fundamentalists. What's scary is that a lot of people in power and prestige actually take them seriously.

Yes. "Political correctness" has long had a tendency to go overboard, and become a new kind of "Puritanism".

Political correctness largely depends on the audience. What's kosher on a college campus would send CPAC into an apoplectic meltdown.

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19 Nov 2019, 10:00 pm

Fnord wrote:

What do you think? Is being "Woke" important, or is it just another meme-of-the-year?

I'll keep this short,
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20 Nov 2019, 9:39 am

So far, 19 out of 30 people consider being 'Woke' as less than important -- 6 even consider being 'Woke' so unimportant that they would rather eat ice cream!

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20 Nov 2019, 10:00 am

I'd rather be asleep myself.....and wake up to ice cream.

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