kraftiekortie wrote:
Jesus might have been the type to let his actions “speak” for him.
As far as casting out demons and multiplying loaves of bread and the number of fish to feed a crowd?
Anyway, this way it’s hard to know what Jesus actually said and what words were put into his mouth.
As I discussed in another thread, not everything Jesus supposedly said was positive. I abhor various things he’s said about family.
Twilightprincess wrote:
“Turning the other cheek” is okay (although not always advisable depending on the situation), but I really don’t care for Jesus’ family values.
Luke 14:26: “If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower. You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters - even more than your own life.”
Matthew 10:34, 35: “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.”
Matthew 10:37: “Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.”
Mark 10:29, 30: “Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age: homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields - with persecutions - and in the age to come eternal life.”
Matthew 8: 21, 22: “Another disciple said to him, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.” But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their dead.”
These are just a few examples. There are many more throughout the New Testament.
If I thought Jesus actually said these things, I would say that he was rather narcissistic and unfeeling.
I couldn’t love anyone more than my own child, and I tend to value family values overall.
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