Most Americans are brainwashed by Years of Propaganda!

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It is really sad. We never really get the whole story of The Second World War anywhere. It is presented as a tale of Good versus Evil. I suppose that is the same way they sell The Civil War. I find it shocking, I never cease to find it shocking, that almost no Americans ever feel bad about the US Military role in that war. Most do not even feel bad at all about the decision to atom bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in Japan. One has to wonder why.

On the other hand, most Americans do feel bad about US Military involvement in the Conflict in Indochina, during the 1960's. Always seemed like a weird double standard if ever there was. The movies, about Vietnam, of course, are particularly strange. After all, in most War Movies, the Official Enemy whether the Soviets or the Nazis or the Japanese, carry out such actions as burning families out of their homes, raping women, murdering children and the like. In movies about Vietnam, by contrast, the US Military is depicted doing all that kind of stuff. Seemed really weird.

But, seeing how Americans do feel so very badly about Vietnam, but not about The Second World War, I began to wonder if there was something weird about the US Media. Perhaps, just perhaps, not everything about The Second World War was all as morally clear cut, and black and white, as all that. I slowly began to ponder the entire history of the 20th Century, as well. I am glad I did watch those stupid movies about Vietnam. After all, they did change the way I think of everything, forever (including The Second World War)!

Could it be that an evil joke was played upon us all? The more I learn about Joseph Stalin, the more I learn about how the Soviet Communists did the same type of stuff the German Nazis did, the more I come to the realization, the firm realization, that we have all been had. Mind you, I often wondered what the actual difference between Communism and Nazism really is. Both have one party regimes, with Prison Camps, and expansionist foreign policies. I wonder if I am finally getting through to people even now.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the Nature Nurture debate? After all, it would seem Liberals are more forgiving towards Communists, no matter what kind of Nazi atrocities that Communists carry out, simply because Joseph Stalin was on the Nurture side of the debate, the same as the Liberals. I am not quite too sure, but that almost makes sense to me. Besides, I have also been fascinated with the entire idea of brainwashing.

Needless to say, Adolf Hitler and the rest of the Nazis were on the Nature side of the debate. And, that is likely why Liberals will never let it go. I digress!

I remember reading some of Aldous Huxley's works. They are indeed very interesting to me. I especially liked Brave New World Revisted. He spoke about a whole lot of things, but especially about how people can be manipulated and brainwashed. I should see if I can still find it somewhere or other. The whole thing works out well, the more that I ponder it. I am glad I can work on this some more. Well anyway, I hope you have all had a nice Christmas this year.

Next year, of course, is The Year of the Metal Rat. That is precisely why I decided to have this screen name for this message board. I can keep on working on this, for quite some time into the future. That would, of course, be a very interesting way to spend my time.

Liberals are more forgiving towards communism because it was an attempt at changing the world for the better- gone horribly wrong.
You couldof course say that Hitler tried to change the world for his version of "better", but there's a clear distinction that's quite apparent: Hitler did horrible tings because that was what he thought a better world would be- one in which genocide of jews is a thing people get rewarded for. That's the vision.

The other thing about communism is: I read some of Marx's analysis of capitalism, and some of Lenin's. They are both eight. They don't consider ecology, yet, but their analysis of capitalism is amazing. The solution to the problems just has spun out of control and awayfrom the idea of democratic control over production every single time.

Another thing, since you're equating nazis and communists: have you ever tried to add up all the people who died because of free markets?- that would include colonial wars, the whole imperialist terror, the wars to open up china for trade .... it's not that capitalism is an inherently peaceful endeavour. And it's not that people around the globe aren't suffering under it, merely because I am living a compratively comfortable life in a as of now privileged province of the american empire. If I were a peasant in one of the oil-exporting dictatorships in the middle east, where the US army is interfering to keep the dictators in power to get cheap oil, I'd certainly not forget about capitalism's victims...

I always feel bad about innocent victims who die during wars. What happened to Hiroshima is, indeed, awful although I, personally, played no part in what took place. I lose sleep thinking about innocent children who have died in situations like this one.

But WWII had to happen. What would the world be like if Hitler was able to accomplish what he wanted to? The fact is that sometimes innocent people have to die for the greater good. I could never be a soldier or an official who makes decisions as to who or what gets bombed. I’m not strong enough for that.

I have nightmares about the Holocaust and other awful events that have transpired in history and have to avoid watching specific documentaries. It’s like I’ve been traumatized by events I took no part in.

Another speculative Conspiracist thread...