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29 Jan 2020, 2:05 pm

I think its weird that the left wing people put more importance on education than the right wing people. I would expect the opposite. Lets look at it from both left wing narrative and right wing narrative:

Left wing narrative: Left wingers are tolerant and right wingers are judgemental. Well, part of being "tolerant" is to say that there is more to a person than education. On the other hand, a "judgemental" person would be a lot more willing to judge people by their diplomas.

Right wing narrative: Right wingers have high standards while left wingers don't. Well, part of having "high standards" is to value education. So right wingers should value education more.

So as you see, whatever way you slice it, it just makes no sense that left wingers ended up placing higher value on education.

However, if you look at America vs Russia things make a lot more sense. Russia is more Conservative while America is more liberal *and* Russia has better education than America as well. So thats exactly what logic would say. But if I look inside America and compare American Conservatives to American Liberals then things no longer make sense when I see American Liberals being more educated.



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29 Jan 2020, 2:23 pm

The Left wants to nurture.

1. Cradle to grave care.
2."It takes a village".
3. In the US "No child left behind", "Common core".
4. Government should give student loans.
5. College should be FREE.

Education is a way for them to nature you.


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29 Jan 2020, 2:51 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:
The Left wants to nurture.

1. Cradle to grave care.
2."It takes a village".
3. In the US "No child left behind", "Common core".
4. Government should give student loans.
5. College should be FREE.

Education is a way for them to nature you.


Exactly. You just articulated a lot better what I was trying to say in OP. Which is the reason why I would *expect* right-wingers to value education more. Yet stats show the opposite tendency (most high ranking schools are in blue states) -- which is why I am so surprised.



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29 Jan 2020, 3:37 pm

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1. Socialism

Higher IQ is probably associated with socialism via the personality trait called Openness-to-experience, which is modestly but significantly correlated with IQ. (To be more exact, left wing political views and voting patterns are characteristic of the highest and lowest IQ groups – the elite and the underclass - and right wingers tend to be in the mid-range.)


http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/20 ... gh-iq.html



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29 Jan 2020, 4:13 pm

firemonkey wrote:
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Higher IQ is probably associated with socialism via the personality trait called Openness-to-experience, which is modestly but significantly correlated with IQ. (To be more exact, left wing political views and voting patterns are characteristic of the highest and lowest IQ groups – the elite and the underclass - and right wingers tend to be in the mid-range.)


http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/20 ... gh-iq.html


That seems a bit weird too. From my point of view, both parties suffer from lack of openness, just in different ways. If you tell Conservative some liberal ideas, or tell Liberal some conservative ideas, they will both be angry. That, plus also it makes no sense why there is a correlation between the view about global warming, a view about abortion, and a view about taxes -- the only explanation I can find is that both parties follow their herd --and yes it would have to be both parties in order to explain this pattern.



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29 Jan 2020, 4:51 pm

He caused a stir with this back in 2008 .

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... cation.uk1