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16 Mar 2020, 10:08 am

Let's talk economics,we have 0 percent interest rates in the US.

I have never understand economics,it's to absract, I like to read history a lot and I do well with more straight forward factual things,not absract things so much.

What does all this mean and what will 0 percent interest rates do for or against the economy.


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16 Mar 2020, 10:26 am

It means the federal reserve won’t be charging interest on loans to either the government or large corporations/banks.

In theory that’s meant to make loans cheaper for all businesses & households and allow the gov to spend more without going bust. In theory.



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16 Mar 2020, 11:04 am

The Prime Interest Rate in the US at the moment is 3.25%

There are some 15-year mortgages which carry a below-3% interest rate.



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16 Mar 2020, 11:23 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
The Prime Interest Rate in the US at the moment is 3.25%

There are some 15-year mortgages which carry a below-3% interest rate.
Everything I have read says the fed cut interest rates to 0 percent.


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16 Mar 2020, 11:32 am

If I agree to lend you money- which would you prefer?

A) I charge you high interest.

B)I charge you low interest

c) That I charge you no interest at all.

Probably C.

If I offered C you would borrow more, and thus spend, or invest more. And that would help the economy by increasing demand. But it would only be good if the economy were in recession.Since the economy was doing ok such a move would seem to only feed inflation, but apparently they expect a recession caused by the virus scare. So that's to offset the anticipated reduction in demand for labor caused by the virus scare.

Or that's my theory.



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16 Mar 2020, 11:37 am

Guardian says that the current US Federal interest rates are between 1% and 1.25% depending on whose taking out what type of loan with the Fed.

Although if that’s equal to or less than current statistically averaged inflation price appreciation* it might be presented as being effectively zero.

*I have issues with current media standards for the usage of economic terms :lol:



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16 Mar 2020, 11:40 am

naturalplastic wrote:
If I agree to lend you money- which would you prefer?

A) I charge you high interest.

B)I charge you low interest

c) That I charge you no interest at all.

Probably C.

If I offered C you would borrow more, and thus spend, or invest more. And that would help the economy by increasing demand. But it would only be good if the economy were in recession.Since the economy was doing ok such a move would seem to only feed inflation, but apparently they expect a recession caused by the virus scare. So that's to offset the anticipated reduction in demand for labor caused by the virus scare.

Or that's my theory.


Or it could scare one off from borrowing to invest in the US... “if they’re that desperate they must have real problems they’re hiding” line of thought.

yay! Go optimism! :lol:



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16 Mar 2020, 11:42 am

The "benchmark" rate is between 0% and 0.25%.

This was also done in 2008.



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16 Mar 2020, 11:49 am

^ Is that the one for loans to government agencies?
Or commercial banks?



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16 Mar 2020, 11:58 am

Probably both, actually.

The Fed is also buying $700 billion in various types of bonds.



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16 Mar 2020, 12:44 pm

Stocks are way down again.


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16 Mar 2020, 3:24 pm

I think the theory behind the zero percent interest rate is that you will borrow more on an interest free loan to boost the economy by you using said zero interest loan to invest more in other things like stocks or real estate or something.



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16 Mar 2020, 3:48 pm

Stocks went down 3,000 points.



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16 Mar 2020, 3:56 pm

This is putting a serious dent in my retirement plans :evil:



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16 Mar 2020, 4:59 pm

Once this thing is over, they'll come back up pretty rapidly.



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16 Mar 2020, 5:50 pm

Karamazov wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
If I agree to lend you money- which would you prefer?

A) I charge you high interest.

B)I charge you low interest

c) That I charge you no interest at all.

Probably C.

If I offered C you would borrow more, and thus spend, or invest more. And that would help the economy by increasing demand. But it would only be good if the economy were in recession.Since the economy was doing ok such a move would seem to only feed inflation, but apparently they expect a recession caused by the virus scare. So that's to offset the anticipated reduction in demand for labor caused by the virus scare.

Or that's my theory.


Or it could scare one off from borrowing to invest in the US... “if they’re that desperate they must have real problems they’re hiding” line of thought.

yay! Go optimism! :lol:


Well...every other country is just as desperate as we are because of the scare. So it cancels out. And as both Trump, and Krafty said, things should bounce back.

But...

who knows? It may come to THIS.

move the slider on the bottom of the screen to 42:00, and listen to a possible future presidential speech! :lol: