Corona makes me feel that humanity has it all wrong

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I'm a "mindless drone" to begin with

Could be useful in micro-surgery I suppose.

Yes, that's the general idea.

I think I must have misread a table I looked at. I thought Spanish flu had a similar mortality rate to Covid-19's reported (but preliminary) mortality rate of 3.4%. Apparently it was more like 10%, and Covid-19 probably seems more deadly than it is because we don't detect mild cases very well.

So the comparison is maybe not the best one, but atm they're talking about a worst-case scenario where Covid-19 infects 80% of people and 0.5-3.4% of those infected die. That's a long way off and very unlikely, but it's already looking very different to other novel coronaviruses like SARS and MERS which were very deadly but not very infectious.

My comparison was it seems to be less deadly than Spanish Flu: but that a lot of government and media reactions look like fear of a repeat of the Spanish Flu is at play in their thinking.
(Think I also mentioned the Black Death as well)
Also noted that we have much improved medical & managerial practices compared with a century ago (let alone six centuries ago) to deal with this sort of event.
Which all made sense (or at least I thought it did) in the context of that thread.
I was attempting to be a voice of calm & reassurance within that context

I think it was chris1989’s thread on the subject, but I might be mistaken (there have been a few!)

Fnord, this is as you called it. It is speculation. It is an opinion. An idea as you would call it. This isn't something scientific I was trying to prove. I can see how you would interpret it the way you did. I should've used better wording. That's my fault.

Fnord, another thing. In all the years I've been on here with you I've asked you to prove your BS plenty of times and asked you logical questions plenty of times to explain things further. Yet, you have failed to do so Mr. Scientist who demands proof for everything. So, pot calling kettle.....

Finally, from my interactions with you it is like speaking to someone who behaves exactly like a Houyhnhnm who has no imagination at all. No thinking in possibilities or thinking what could be even if the thinking is flawed. No sense of wonder whatsoever. It is so extremely frustrating to have a conversation with you b/c Mr. Scientist who acts like this smug Houyhnhnm demands things from others yet refuses to give it himself.

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And guess what it was said by others we couldn't fly. We're flying now.

It was said we couldn't go past the speed of sound. We've went past the speed of sound.

We keep hearing over and over from your scientific community that it is impossible to go past the speed of light. Well, what is the track record of saying something is impossible to achieve?

Fnord, the scientific method is excellent but you and your colleagues lock yourselves in box.

Teach! You got it. This is the basis for my idea. Imagine if you will one could copy certain parts of the brain, transmit this configuration over a network and rework parts of another brain using this micro-surgery. In effect, the part of the brain that stores the memory of how women feel on their periods. Imagine being able to copy the configuration of this and then doing micro-surgery on a man's brain so the man could feel what a woman feels.

Fnord, she wanted what your take on it was not the dictionary definition. In school I dealt with teachers who would tell me to go look things up. But, what they and those such as yourself don't understand is that I wanted what you said it was. Your meaning. Your thoughts. Your perceptions. Not Websters. I don't give two s**ts what wikpedia or websters says even though I do make use of them. And, neither did she.

If a man could feel what a woman feels there would be much more harmony in the world cube, but on the other hand, less "make up" sex
Personally I love the male brain, I wouldn't change it's configuration. I could imagine though that autism makes male/female communication additionally challenging and frustrating. If women would verbalise their feelings more and men would learn to listen passively without offering solutions ( that's not what we are looking for) it would be less invasive than re-configuring the brain.

It's amazing how differently male and female brains work isn't it? According to my spiritual belief, our purpose in life is to overcome all these differences and love each other despite them, embrace the differences, respect them, validate that different is not defected or flawed. This brings me back to my OP.

Cube, are you thinking in terms of correcting autism with Nano-tech? Not sure if that is a good idea. That is fundamentally changing who people are in essence, technology such as that in the wrong hands could be disastrous. Makes me think of "Clockwork Orange."

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I wouldn't change it unless he wanted to change it within himself. But, what I meant though is that maybe my idea could give the male a certain insight into the feminine mind. In a group at my old job I worked at when I did work we were given a sort of a tour. We had to go through an obstacle course that was led by a blind person. The lights were cut off. The purpose of this was to sort of give us a taste as to what it was like to be blind. She was able to navigate it easily and we had to have help to lead us. It gave me empathy for the blind and to kind of know what it was like for them.

I wish to replicate this but using mind to mind transfers of experiences using micro surgery.



But to do this we have to have the empathy or be able to wear their shoes. But can we really do that without the experiences? On a rudimentary level maybe but what if we could go deeper?



Different topic altogether but I would want the ability to be able to choose to do this or not for myself. I don't want it forced on others or those who want it be prevented from getting it.

Cube,the experiment of being temporarily blind is an excellent one in order to "put ourselves in someone elses shoes." Bravo to you that you can empathise and place importance on our abilities to sense each others' experiences and emotions, and constantly aspire to improve on them, in order to upgrade our human connection. You are lovely and I am sending you a Corona free virtual hug, with the level of intensity and pressure that suits you perfectly.

(You are lucky it's virtual because IRL I just crush those I love in a bear hug.)

Thank you for your virtual corona free hug!

I believe that Empathy, not technology, not government, and not religion is our salvation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_ ... evelopment

Look at the Kohlberg's stages of moral development especially the 6th stage. I believe with what I'm proposing humanity can get to this 6th stage.

Thank you, it's a bit over my head to understand. I have a profound faith in God but I am not religious. I don't think God cares for us fighting over religious differences. I am not against religion for others. I am a practical kabbalist, and though it evolved from Abraham and Judaism you don't need to to be jewish to implement its principles. It is a science, and teaches how to utilize the laws and forces of nature and correct our souls by connecting with each other above all our differences. There are many mumbo jumbo kabbalah offshoots, mine has no mysticism or celebs, true kabbalah is just a handbook to how the forces of the universe work and why. How to utilize the Light, the Creator, who according to the wisdom of kabbalah is a dormant and static Force that we awaken when we connect, like a great transformer we receive this Light if we have an altruistic intention. The "Minyan" group of ten in prayer, is fundamental in Judaism, ten people create this transformer, that awakens the Light. In Judaism no-one prays alone. In kabbalah we all pray for the rest of the world and never ourselves.

More science-fiction. The movies "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Total Recall" riffed on this general theme, as did Neuromancer and several other science-fiction novels.

I saw no request from her for "Opinions Only; No Facts, Please", thus my factual replies.