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26 Apr 2020, 1:06 pm

Joe Biden has indicated he would choose a woman for a running mate.

Who do you think he will pick, or who would you like for him to pick?

I think Amy Klobuchar is the most likely choice, though there has been speculation about Liz Warren, Kamala Harris, Gretchen Whitmer and Stacey Abrams.

I think he should also consider Sens. Kristen Sinema (AZ) and Jackie Rosen (NV), and Gov. Michelle Lujan-Gresham (NM)


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26 Apr 2020, 3:53 pm

Biden has said he wants it to be someone he gets along with, which I think might count against Harris, who his wife doesn’t like due to some of her attacks on Biden. I think Harris is more likely to get a SCOTUS nomination.

Warren is not really a suitable “successor”, comes from a safe state, and is probably not ideologically close enough.

There’s a group of North Midwesterners who will probably all be on the shortlist because so much of the 2016 autopsy focused on those states.

Contrastingly I think the Westerners are disadvantaged because they are not the focus. Nevada and New Mexico are increasingly safe, and there might be a perception that Clinton overreached by targeting Arizona.

A complication for members of Congress is that if they have a Republican governor, then they will have a Republican replacement if elected. Depending on the state, they might lose the seat in the special election. So that gives Whitmer and Abrams an advantage.

I increasingly think it doesn’t really matter to the ticket unless you really drop the ball (see: Sarah Palin 2008). So play it safe and pick Whitmer.



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26 Apr 2020, 4:04 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
Biden has said he wants it to be someone he gets along with, which I think might count against Harris, who his wife doesn’t like due to some of her attacks on Biden. I think Harris is more likely to get a SCOTUS nomination.

Warren is not really a suitable “successor”, comes from a safe state, and is probably not ideologically close enough.

There’s a group of North Midwesterners who will probably all be on the shortlist because so much of the 2016 autopsy focused on those states.

Contrastingly I think the Westerners are disadvantaged because they are not the focus. Nevada and New Mexico are increasingly safe, and there might be a perception that Clinton overreached by targeting Arizona.

A complication for members of Congress is that if they have a Republican governor, then they will have a Republican replacement if elected. Depending on the state, they might lose the seat in the special election. So that gives Whitmer and Abrams an advantage.

I increasingly think it doesn’t really matter to the ticket unless you really drop the ball (see: Sarah Palin 2008). So play it safe and pick Whitmer.


Abrams isn't governor of GA. She ran, but lost. But you're right about Whitmer.


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26 Apr 2020, 7:57 pm

Will he choose this woman by the way her hair smells?


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26 Apr 2020, 9:44 pm

I think the black vote will be the key for a Biden victory. Abrams or Harris would be great picks.


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26 Apr 2020, 9:47 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Biden has said he wants it to be someone he gets along with, which I think might count against Harris, who his wife doesn’t like due to some of her attacks on Biden. I think Harris is more likely to get a SCOTUS nomination.

Warren is not really a suitable “successor”, comes from a safe state, and is probably not ideologically close enough.

There’s a group of North Midwesterners who will probably all be on the shortlist because so much of the 2016 autopsy focused on those states.

Contrastingly I think the Westerners are disadvantaged because they are not the focus. Nevada and New Mexico are increasingly safe, and there might be a perception that Clinton overreached by targeting Arizona.

A complication for members of Congress is that if they have a Republican governor, then they will have a Republican replacement if elected. Depending on the state, they might lose the seat in the special election. So that gives Whitmer and Abrams an advantage.

I increasingly think it doesn’t really matter to the ticket unless you really drop the ball (see: Sarah Palin 2008). So play it safe and pick Whitmer.


Abrams isn't governor of GA. She ran, but lost. But you're right about Whitmer.


I could be wrong, but I think Walrus is considering Abrams governor of GA because Abrams believes she won the election?



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26 Apr 2020, 9:51 pm

Magna wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Biden has said he wants it to be someone he gets along with, which I think might count against Harris, who his wife doesn’t like due to some of her attacks on Biden. I think Harris is more likely to get a SCOTUS nomination.

Warren is not really a suitable “successor”, comes from a safe state, and is probably not ideologically close enough.

There’s a group of North Midwesterners who will probably all be on the shortlist because so much of the 2016 autopsy focused on those states.

Contrastingly I think the Westerners are disadvantaged because they are not the focus. Nevada and New Mexico are increasingly safe, and there might be a perception that Clinton overreached by targeting Arizona.

A complication for members of Congress is that if they have a Republican governor, then they will have a Republican replacement if elected. Depending on the state, they might lose the seat in the special election. So that gives Whitmer and Abrams an advantage.

I increasingly think it doesn’t really matter to the ticket unless you really drop the ball (see: Sarah Palin 2008). So play it safe and pick Whitmer.


Abrams isn't governor of GA. She ran, but lost. But you're right about Whitmer.


I could be wrong, but I think Walrus is considering Abrams governor of GA because Abrams believes she won the election?


Having her opponent being the one who tallied the votes, while having had carried out voter suppression, would certainly make her feel that was a strong possibility.


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27 Apr 2020, 4:26 am

Magna wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Biden has said he wants it to be someone he gets along with, which I think might count against Harris, who his wife doesn’t like due to some of her attacks on Biden. I think Harris is more likely to get a SCOTUS nomination.

Warren is not really a suitable “successor”, comes from a safe state, and is probably not ideologically close enough.

There’s a group of North Midwesterners who will probably all be on the shortlist because so much of the 2016 autopsy focused on those states.

Contrastingly I think the Westerners are disadvantaged because they are not the focus. Nevada and New Mexico are increasingly safe, and there might be a perception that Clinton overreached by targeting Arizona.

A complication for members of Congress is that if they have a Republican governor, then they will have a Republican replacement if elected. Depending on the state, they might lose the seat in the special election. So that gives Whitmer and Abrams an advantage.

I increasingly think it doesn’t really matter to the ticket unless you really drop the ball (see: Sarah Palin 2008). So play it safe and pick Whitmer.


Abrams isn't governor of GA. She ran, but lost. But you're right about Whitmer.


I could be wrong, but I think Walrus is considering Abrams governor of GA because Abrams believes she won the election?

No, I wasn’t considering her governor at all.

However, she is not a member of Congress and thus will not have a replacement appointed by a governor. What counts against her is that she hasn’t held federal office or been a governor, so could be viewed as inexperienced.

Whitmer would be replaced by her Lieutenant Governor, Garlin Gilchrist.



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27 Apr 2020, 6:42 pm

It's interesting that he would limit his choice to a woman. I'm all for equality, of course, but it'd be a shame if he didn't choose the perfect male for VP and instead went for a woman simply because she's a woman.

Personally, I think he already has the black votes sewn up, now he has to grab a big chunk of the Midwestern & Southern votes.

I wouldn't be surprised, then, if he leans towards a female Heartland governor like Laura Kelly/Kansas or Michelle Grisham/New Mexico. I would've added Gretchen Whitmer/Michigan but she's been seen too much in a negative light lately.



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27 Apr 2020, 7:19 pm

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28 Apr 2020, 3:17 am

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03 May 2020, 7:45 pm

Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, or Gretchen Whitmer.

Elizabeth Warren IMO would be too obvious of a choice should Biden pick her as a running mate.


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06 Jun 2020, 12:58 pm

According to CNN, the following candidates have been vetted:

- Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass)
- Senator Kamala Harris (D-Cali)
- Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn)
- Representative Val Demings (D-FL10)
- Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D-Mich)
- Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms (D, Atlanta)
- Former US Ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice
- Former candidate for Governor of Georgia, Stacey Abrams

Of those eight candidates, three are white, five are black, and one is Asian (counting Harris as both black and Asian).

Other candidates who other sources have claimed are being vetted are Senator Tammy Duckworth (D-IL), Senator Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV), and Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham (D-NM).

I think Duckworth would be interesting as she is a military veteran - it would certainly be one way of securing Fnord’s vote ;)

She’s probably the lowest profile of the options listed but Keisha Lance Bottoms has come out of the current crisis very well, talking about the need for police reform while also rebuking the rioters very emotively. A lot of the black women have backgrounds that will quite easily allow them to play for sides with credibility - Demings is a retired cop, Harris used to be a prosecutor.

Polling consistently finds Warren in the lead, followed by Klobuchar and Harris. However this seems to basically be measuring name recognition and is ultimately irrelevant. The VP candidate will be decided by Biden, not the public.



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06 Jun 2020, 1:10 pm

He would be a fool to pick Klobuchar because when she was a Hennapin county prosecutor,she declined to prosecute Derek Chauvin.This will come out before the election and it will sink Biden because a Vice President is critical with a President Biden's age.


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06 Jun 2020, 1:11 pm

Duckworth has appealed to me since before all the Democratic candidates had announced. I would be excited to see her selected. You could add her to the Asian list (Filipina).

Perhaps they should go to Bottoms and Abrams and ask them to decide between the two of them which should accept, given they are fellow Georgians.

I'm not convinced about Whitmer. I think she has acquired some negatives recently.

The main problem with Harris is she was a prosecutor. It was her job to put people in prison. Not what we need in this election. I think she could do the job though.

EDIT: Duckworth is actually Thai of Chinese descent on her mother's side. Not a drop of Filipino blood.


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06 Jun 2020, 1:12 pm

He would be wise to choose a racial minority at this point in time.


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